Who is next at OS?

[Bender20]

1 hour ago, Vott said:

He's not leaving OG. Even with their success the last three seasons, leaving OG for Oceans Springs is a step down. The top five coaching jobs in 7a in no order are Madison Central Brandon Tupelo Oak Grove and Starkville. 

OG don't pay great unless they change that recently.

[Wildcats1980]

6 minutes ago, Vott said:

To be the premier school in the South you need to make a title game first. So right now the top 2 now 7a schools in the South are Brandon and oak Grove 

You are kidding yourself if you think Ocean Springs is not a premier 7a program.  The pay is great, awesome place to live and the facilities are top notch.  If I not mistaken Pennock didn't teach any classes.  That is a huge perk in its self.

[Wildcats1980]

4 minutes ago, Bender20 said:

OG don't pay great unless they change that recently.

I have been told he only makes in the 70s at OG.  I cant confirm if that is true or not. 

[CrimsonUnit1988]

26 minutes ago, dogsoldier74 said:

But now they are the premier south 7a school (apparently), going to be hard to get the community behind a guy that isn't a championship caliber HC. 

They're definitely not the premier 7A team of the south. 

[coastfootballfanman]

3 minutes ago, Wildcats1980 said:

You are kidding yourself if you think Ocean Springs is not a premier 7a program.  The pay is great, awesome place to live and the facilities are top notch.  If I not mistaken Pennock didn't teach any classes.  That is a huge perk in its self.

There are not many 7A coaches teaching any classes already and if they are, it is usually 2 periods of P.E. or something easy like that. Ocean Springs is not a premier job if you are looking to compete year and out consistently and win a title. Now, they are DEFINITELY on the rise, but two great seasons does not put them in that category in my eyes yet. 

[Tidesmanforlife]

Russell Mitchell would do a great job at OS. Because he went 5-6 doesn't mean he isn't ready. They could have been in a rrebuilding . I'm talking about Germantown and he had a lot to do with Oak Grove offense why he was there. If Ocean Springs has tge the athletes and can run a spread offense hes the man. He also has experience at EMCC and they won a couple National championship why he was helping there. He's definitely proven his self. 

 

 

 

 

[David]

1 hour ago, maroontide06 said:

So who exactly are you thinking about that's on our current staff?

I really don’t know. In fact, I have to google your staff to even name names. But, a two time champion has to have assistants, especially coordinators, who are ready for the next level. Not fair to ask you to name the best coach on your staff, but I’d bet there’s more than one who could do a good job. 

[CrimsonUnit1988]

1 minute ago, Wildcats1980 said:

I have been told he only makes in the 70s at OG.  I cant confirm if that is true or not. 

Put it this way, if you coach at Lumberton and have more experience than the OG coach, you'd make more money. Lamar County School District. 

[Wildcats1980]

2 minutes ago, coastfootballfanman said:

There are not many 7A coaches teaching any classes already and if they are, it is usually 2 periods of P.E. or something easy like that. Ocean Springs is not a premier job if you are looking to compete year and out consistently and win a title. Now, they are DEFINITELY on the rise, but two great seasons does not put them in that category in my eyes yet. 

I know middle coaches that make more than that on the coast.

[Greyhoundtransplant]

For starters the head football coach at Ocean Springs is not a teaching position. It is an administrator. They also serve as the assistant athletic director. From what I was told yesterday the requirements include a minimum of one year head coaching experience and a degree in administration.

[Vott]

16 minutes ago, Wildcats1980 said:

You are kidding yourself if you think Ocean Springs is not a premier 7a program.  The pay is great, awesome place to live and the facilities are top notch.  If I not mistaken Pennock didn't teach any classes.  That is a huge perk in its self.

So if the pay is great and it's a great place to live and the facilities are top notch but you don't make it past south state, you're not a premier program. That goes for any school. If your school has never had the chance to win it all it's not a premier program. Does not matter if it's the best city in the state, doesn't matter if the coach makes $200,000 a year doesn't matter if you have a 5 million dollar indoor facility. Premier programs are based on one thing. WINS.

[Wildcats1980]

7 minutes ago, Vott said:

So if the pay is great and it's a great place to live and the facilities are top notch but you don't make it past south state, you're not a premier program. That goes for any school. If your school has never had the chance to win it all it's not a premier program. Does not matter if it's the best city in the state, doesn't matter if the coach makes $200,000 a year doesn't matter if you have a 5 million dollar indoor facility. Premier programs are based on one thing. 

9 minutes ago, Vott said:

So if the pay is great and it's a great place to live and the facilities are top notch but you don't make it past south state, you're not a premier program. That goes for any school. If your school has never had the chance to win it all it's not a premier program. Does not matter if it's the best city in the state, doesn't matter if the coach makes $200,000 a year doesn't matter if you have a 5 million dollar indoor facility. Premier programs are based on one thing. WINS.

I don’t see many coaches going to a program because they win. But I do see coaches jumping ship for more money and better facilities. Enough money can get any Coach.

[BrickCity]

23 hours ago, Vott said:

There is no reason for anyone to be bitter about it. It's a personal decision that he thought would be best for him and his family. If I was making 95,000 and had a chance to make 120,000 I'd leave my place of employment on the spot and tell my new employer I'll be there tomorrow. Lol

Mr. Vott I actually agree with on this. People can say what they want, but at the end of the day you have to make a decision for you and your family. 

On side note, if people are upset that a coach is leaving, that means he did a good job and holds value at that point. 

So grats to him and this will be an interesting coaching carousel for the next month or so

[BrickCity]

1 hour ago, Bender20 said:

OG don't pay great unless they change that recently.

Like MC, im sure they have a few good boosters in the program that keeps it together

[slicklizard]

I guess you’re not much older. …. If you count in dog years 

5 hours ago, Vott said:

So if the pay is great and it's a great place to live and the facilities are top notch but you don't make it past south state, you're not a premier program. That goes for any school. If your school has never had the chance to win it all it's not a premier program. Does not matter if it's the best city in the state, doesn't matter if the coach makes $200,000 a year doesn't matter if you have a 5 million dollar indoor facility. Premier programs are based on one thing. WINS.

So judging by the standards you laid out would you count Petal as premier? Think about your answer it’s a trick question 

Edited December 16, 2022 by slicklizard

[Dubaction]

Mmmm…. I think there’s a difference between being a premier coaching job and a premier program lol. 

[Wildcats1980]

18 minutes ago, Dubaction said:

Mmmm…. I think there’s a difference between being a premier coaching job and a premier program lol. 

I will agree with that. Maybe I should have said premier coaching coaching job not premier program.

[Greyhounddad1068]

No one has even mentioned the possibilities of some 7A coaches leading successful programs from Alabama being more suitable for the position.  

[FBdude]

22 minutes ago, Greyhounddad1068 said:

No one has even mentioned the possibilities of some 7A coaches leading successful programs from Alabama being more suitable for the position.  

Why go out of state there are plenty of coaches in Mississippi? Lot of times these retiree hires don’t work.

[maroontide06]

1 hour ago, Greyhounddad1068 said:

No one has even mentioned the possibilities of some 7A coaches leading successful programs from Alabama being more suitable for the position.  

Go look at the first page of this thread and the 6th post.  I mentioned the State of Alabama, but who knows where Ocean Springs will go?

[coastball]

Rumors are that he's taking 4-5 current OS guys with him including Bramlett so that should rule him out. My opinion is that if they continue to hire "outside" guys then they have to be prepared for this to happen every 3-4 years at OS if they continue winning records there. If they don't want that turnover then they need to look into a guy with community ties that is invested in the area. No clue who that describes though . Merry Christmas to all!

[Archer]

1 hour ago, FBdude said:

Why go out of state there are plenty of coaches in Mississippi? Lot of times these retiree hires don’t work.

 

Oh, there's plenty of coaches alright.  But plenty of good coaches ... debatable.

[dogsoldier74]

I think Jim Nowell is a good choice, fiery coach who will fight hard for his players (or any other reason).

[FBdude]

2 minutes ago, dogsoldier74 said:

I think Jim Nowell is a good choice, fiery coach who will fight hard for his players (or any other reason).

Plenty of good coaches in Mississippi. Show me a current out of state hire that has been successful…. Why not go after a coach that is a proven winner.  Bilderback, beach, shorter. List goes on. All are more successful than the previous coach when he got hired. Heck give Brad Peterson a call.

 

[Matt]

All I'm gonna say is Saban has been hanging around OS an awful lot the last few days. Anyone who's has had those Tato-nut donuts you see here, knows people would sell their soul to get their hands on one. Head Coach? AD? Who knows!   

Edited December 16, 2022 by Matt