College Baseball Season Thread

[Dawg83]

19 minutes ago, David44 said:

Great comeback. Just wondering if giving up 15 walks and still winning maybe an SEC record?

 

It really epitomizes this State team’s ability to look like they’ve never picked up a baseball before, and then randomly they look like a very competent team every once in a while.

[Vott]

12 minutes ago, Dawg83 said:

It really epitomizes this State team’s ability to look like they’ve never picked up a baseball before, and then randomly they look like a very competent team every once in a while.

What will really suck is this: let's say right now state Georgia and Missouri are tied for the 12th spot. State does what they have to do to get in. But either Georgia or Missouri has a game rained out and it's not made up and msu finishes tied with one of them in wins, but has one more loss. State may finish 10-20 but Georgia and/or Missouri 10-19. Won/loss record by winning percentage would leave msu out

[Dawg83]

Getting swept four times with zero sweeps of their own is ultimately what will likely kill State. They’re going to finish above .500 overall, may get a fourth SEC series win, going to finish with a respectable RPI. If you just win 1 of 3 in the weekends you got swept, you’re at worst on the bubble right now and might be safely in.

[maroontide06]

1 minute ago, Vott said:

What will really suck is this: let's say right now state Georgia and Missouri are tied for the 12th spot. State does what they have to do to get in. But either Georgia or Missouri has a game rained out and it's not made up and msu finishes tied with one of them in wins, but has one more loss. State may finish 10-20 but Georgia and/or Missouri 10-19. Won/loss record by winning percentage would leave msu out

Vott, if State can sweep A&M it will give them 11 wins, so an 11-19 record is the best State can do.  If 11-19 is better than Georgia or Missouri after the dust settles this weekend, then they can get the 12th spot.

[Bulldogs4]

Easy to say but hard to do. Our guys just need to find a way to win today. Then let the other results go as they will. 
 

If we sweep and one of the other teams has game cancelled (provided they lose the other two games) because of weather we will be in by virtue of a better record.  

11-19 will be better than 

10-19. 
Of course I am getting ahead of myself there. 

 

 

[Dawg83]

2 hours ago, Bulldogs4 said:

Easy to say but hard to do. Our guys just need to find a way to win today. Then let the other results go as they will. 
 

If we sweep and one of the other teams has game cancelled (provided they lose the other two games) because of weather we will be in by virtue of a better record.  

11-19 will be better than 

10-19. 
Of course I am getting ahead of myself there. 

 

 

There’s a lot still in play as of right now. Even some tiebreaker scenarios that State can win. But there’s also a chance State is eliminated before they even play the Saturday game. Today will tell us a lot.

[MSTSatchmo]

A sweep is not probable considering they haven’t swept an SEC team this year.  Plus they had practically a miracle comeback last night.  However, State is still fighting which is all you can do.  

[hasbeen67]

Any theories on the seemingly epidemic of inconsistent pitching this season? It seemed to be the achilles' heel for MSU and OM and LSU for the MSU series anyway. Is there too much emphasis on speed at the expense of other aspects?

[MSTSatchmo]

Laviolette for A&M with 3 homers tonight including the go head 3 run shot down 4-3 in the 9th.  Probably ends State’s chances of the SECT. 

 

OM gets swept by Bama.  I have no idea what to say about OM this year.  This was not expected and probably worse than State’s collapse last year.  
 

We’ve gone from comparing NC seasons to last place seasons.  That sucks. 

[Dawg83]

State still has one path to the SEC Tourney: Tomorrow they need State win + LSU win + Vandy win. All three must happen or they are out. I don’t believe Mizzou matters anymore, State can only win a tiebreaker against Georgia. But those three results must go their way for it to happen.

Edited May 20, 2023 by Dawg83

[rebmus]

32 minutes ago, MSTSatchmo said:

Laviolette for A&M with 3 homers tonight including the go head 3 run shot down 4-3 in the 9th.  Probably ends State’s chances of the SECT. 

 

OM gets swept by Bama.  I have no idea what to say about OM this year.  This was not expected and probably worse than State’s collapse last year.  
 

We’ve gone from comparing NC seasons to last place seasons.  That sucks. 

I can only add:

 

State still has a fighting chance tomorrow. It's not a good chance by any means but a chance. 

Ole Miss- there's no "probably worse than State's collapse last year"... it's worse. MSU managed 9 SEC wins last year, OM managed 6 SEC wins this year. It's comparable but definitely Ole Miss sucked more this year than MSU last year. 

 

 

[MSTSatchmo]

34 minutes ago, Dawg83 said:

State still has one path to the SEC Tourney: Tomorrow they need State win + LSU win + Vandy win. All three must happen or they are out. I don’t believe Mizzou matters anymore, State can only win a tiebreaker against Georgia. But those three results must go their way for it to happen.

All three could very well happen.  

[Dawg83]

39 minutes ago, MSTSatchmo said:

All three could very well happen.  

I could be wrong, but I kinda don’t think any of them happen. I think Arkansas is simply the better team than Vandy and I don’t trust State or LSU’s Sunday pitching.

 

But hey, if you’re State, you go into the last day of the season with some hope for Hoover. That’s more than anyone expected a week ago. Wouldn’t come close to salvaging the season but it would be better than the alternative of not making it.

Edited May 20, 2023 by Dawg83

[Bulldogs4]

Well dang. This one hurt. Just kind of sums up the season. We are a sub .370 team in conference and a .500 team overall. Pitched decently outside of three pitches but they all count. 
Did not realize we were technically alive. For those three things to happen would be a total conundrum. 
 

For Ole Miss, I know they are like I was last year in that I was glad the season was over. 

[Dawg83]

The SEC currently has 9 teams that will be legitimately in the mix to host a Regional, including Alabama and Auburn. I think the record is 7, I’ll be curious to see if they top that.

 

Also makes you wonder how tough the road back to relevancy will be for State and OM. It’s a different league than it was a year or two ago. The transfer portal has been a huge equalizer.

[pancho]

Texas and Oklahoma joining will make it even more of a meat grinder type league. If MSU doesn't cut ties with Lemo now, they'll have to in 12 months.

[Dawg83]

2 hours ago, pancho said:

Texas and Oklahoma joining will make it even more of a meat grinder type league. If MSU doesn't cut ties with Lemo now, they'll have to in 12 months.

General consensus is Lemonis will be back. So yeah, we’ll see what 2024 holds. Can’t blame anyone for being highly skeptical and I certainly don’t feel confident one way or another about what may happen next.

[Dawg83]

Georgia beat LSU so State is eliminated before they even take the field. Today’s game is essentially meaningless other than A&M playing for their NCAAT lives.

[MSTSatchmo]

19 hours ago, Dawg83 said:

I could be wrong, but I kinda don’t think any of them happen. I think Arkansas is simply the better team than Vandy and I don’t trust State or LSU’s Sunday pitching.

 

But hey, if you’re State, you go into the last day of the season with some hope for Hoover. That’s more than anyone expected a week ago. Wouldn’t come close to salvaging the season but it would be better than the alternative of not making it.

Just one out of the three.  That’s baseball***

[Bulldogs4]

That is a wrap. What a disappointment this year was for State and Ole Miss. One thing is for certain, expectations for next year will be very subdued. Each club is going to need….ALOT.

 

Something I heard through the grapevine today was that discipline at State is nonexistent. Bianco OTOH runs a tight ship. But at State, if that is true, falls at the feet of the HC. That is certainly is disheartening as well. Now I know, losing breeds negativity and coaches/players get impugned unfairly often times in the midst of that. 
All that to say, we need to do more than straighten the ship, we have got to plug some major holes because we have sunk about as low as you can go. Not much place left to go but sideways or up. 

[Dawg83]

I’m not exaggerating when I say State’s pitching staff needs a 100% overhaul. I am not totally sure there’s a single SEC caliber pitcher returning on that staff. There are young guys with talent, but they’re incredibly raw and need to take a major step forward to be competitive in this league.

 

Hines, Jordan, Mershon, and Highfill are talented offensive pieces that should be back that you can build around. But on top of needing basically a whole pitching staff from the portal, you’re going to need several position guys that can start immediately too.

 

Goes without saying that the pitching coach hire will be crucial. Probably won’t know who that is until mid to late June. But it is pretty clear that Lemonis will have to find someone that can fix things to a respectable level immediately. If it requires a multi year rebuild of the pitching staff, he probably will not be around to see it through.

 

 

[maroontide06]

In regards to a 100% pitching staff overhaul, one pitcher that State is going to get is Will Passeau.  That young man is the caliber of player that you want if you’re State.  He can pitch and he can hit.  You may need him to do both.

[rebmus]

When was the last time Ole Miss and MSU finished bottom 2 in SEC Baseball? 

Without digging, I'm guessing over 40 years and maybe 50 years? More than 50?

 

 

[Bulldogs4]

I would guess at least 50 years (early 1970’s) or longer since we were the two bottom teams. 
Hard to fathom. 

[Dawg83]

No surprise but USM is promoting Christian Ostrander to head coach at the conclusion of this season. Probably the best man for the job, think there’s a good chance he maintains the winning ways of Palmer and Berry.