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Not good when the team that beats you pretty soundly goes down in polls.

Only thing about State spreads now, they may look so helpless people start taking it easy on them

Sounds like this needs a documentary.

I don't go to that many games, but it seems there's at least a minor incident pretty often. I don't consider myself a "stay off my lawn" old man, but it's not encouraging to hear. On the other hand, when you hear some of the stories from the real old-timers maybe not much has changed.

We lose sight sometimes that these are real kids out there. Tough news for Shapen.

Rich people problems.

I guess in the current age of NIL we can blame ourselves for not hiring enough good players. You need a good coach, but you have to buy the players. It's probably some combination of all the things mentioned. I think most believed the Arnett team had a little more talent overall. There were some good defensive players and we've seen/are seeing what the running could do. Also, the OC/offense choice was a pretty drastic change for the short notice. Would have probably been wise to at least stay similar to what you were doing and transition over the next year if that's what you wanted. Didn't have the personnel, particularly QB, to do what they were trying to do. I think between graduation and transfers, most people understood the talent would be thin this year. (But maybe not this bad.)

Yes, nothing about ASU looks that great now. Looks like they may beat them. That's really a bad look for MSU. Hate to be so negative, but it is what it is. I'm a pretty casual observer, but does Texas State not look more athletic and better coached than MSU did?

Unfortunately, the hype, or lack there of, may indicate a realization of what the season will bring. It may take a year or two before Lebby has much to promote.

What happened with the MSU RB, he just didn't have his stuff together or what?

This was going on some 40 years ago when I was in high school. I'm sure it's just as bad or worse these days.

I didn't know this was coming. Doesn't seem to make sense.

Gautreau looked like a rising star at one time. Now maybe not so much. So is that on him or the talent (or a little of both)?

My grandfather served during WW2, but wasn't stationed in a combat area. He was somewhere in Central America. Panama Canal maybe.

They'll probably come up with a work-around by allowing admission during the semester for online classes.