2025-2027 MHSAA Reclassification

[ccbulldog]

38 minutes ago, Merlin said:

You got 3 6A and 3 5A there.  And left out 5A to be northeast jones. 

That's my point, use other factors like location and competitiveness in addition to school size. I didn't include NE jones because its a little too small and not as competitive as the other teams.

[coastfootballfanman]

5 minutes ago, ccbulldog said:

That's my point, use other factors like location and competitiveness in addition to school size. I didn't include NE jones because its a little too small and not as competitive as the other teams.

I actually like the thought process here. However, how would you determine who is 7A, 6A, 5A, etc.?

[maroontide06]

4 minutes ago, coastfootballfanman said:

I actually like the thought process here. However, how would you determine who is 7A, 6A, 5A, etc.?

Sounds like it would be going back to the old conference days, which is not happening again.

[Mississippi Queen]

On 9/28/2024 at 7:15 PM, Rebel Bert said:

October 2023:

4A Bottom 12:

29 Bay St Louis 374

30 Greene County 374

31 Moss Point 372

32 Mooreville 368. Up

33 Senatobia 365

34 Rosa Fort 364

35 South Pike 361  Up

36 Raymond 358

37 Columbia 357

38 Forest 356

39 Amory 349

40 Quitman  347

3A Top 12

 1 Shannon 343 Down

 2 St Stanislaus 340 in 2022

 3 Byhalia  336 Down

 4 St Patrick 334 in 2022

 5 Franklin County 324

 6 Noxubee County 322

 7 Yazoo County 312

 8 Humphreys County 310

 9 Alcorn Central 309

10 West Marion 309

11 Hazlehurst 304

12 Magee 303

3A Bottom 14:

28 Pisgah 252 Up

29 Tylertown 249

30 OLA 246 in 2022

31 Jefferson County 243

32 Raleigh 242 Up

33 Aberdeen 240

34 T Edwards 237

35 Holly Springs 236

36 Mantatchie 236

37 Collins 226 Up

38 Wesson 225

39 Scott Central 223

40 St Andrew's 221 in 2022

41 East Union 221 Up

Note: PCS moving in probably drops East Union back to 2A

2A Top 10 and others dropping down:

 1 Hatley 219

 2 Wilkinson County 217

 3 Clarkdale 215

 4 Perry Central 214 Down

 5 O'Bannon 213

 6 JZ George 212

 7 Amite County 212

 8 Charleston 209

 9 Union 209 Down

10 Belmont 208

11 Strayhorn 208  Up Coldwater closed

14 Enterprise Clarke 201 Down

17 East Webster 197

23 Kemper County 190

2A Bottom 10 and those moving Up

21 Baldwyn 191 Up

24 East Marion 189 Up

30 Leland 177 Up

31 North Forrest 177

32 Loyd Star 173

33 MS Palmer 172

34 Enterprise Lincoln 170 Up

35 Lake 168

36 Leake County 168 Up

37 Bogue Chitto 165

38 West Lincoln 159

39 Velma Jackson 155 Up

40 Smithville 155 Up

* East Union stays 2A someone drops back to 1A*

1A Top 7

1 Taylorsville 155

2 Hamilton 153 Down

3 Leflore County 153 Down

4 Calhoun City 152 Down 

5 West Tallahatchie 152

6 Richton 149

7 Sebastopol 149

By numbers PCS would be 3A, but I heard something about the possibility of them being made to play up a class due to being able to "recruit" via scholarship. Is that a thing? And then there's also the rumor that some parents don't like the move to the MHSAA and are pulling their kids and starting a new school. IF that happens, they'd lose some kids - but it would be too late to affect the 2025-27 classification.

Also had confirmed this week that both Sumrall HS and Purvis HS are being pushed from 4A to 5A. They were the largest of the 4A and will now be the smallest of the 5. Yikes. Not good for either in football. They were already getting killed in 4A. But they'll continue to be fine in baseball.

[Mississippi Queen]

On 11/6/2024 at 10:33 AM, Vott said:

Harrison Central bout to go to region 3 and play petal oak grove Meridian and the jackson area schools

Only way Harrison Central joins that region is if one of the existing teams in it gets moved down to 6A. Idk that'll happen: Brandon, OG, Northwest Rankin, Petal, Pearl and Meridian... who you got going down to 6A?

[Rebel Bert]

1 hour ago, Mississippi Queen said:

Only way Harrison Central joins that region is if one of the existing teams in it gets moved down to 6A. Idk that'll happen: Brandon, OG, Northwest Rankin, Petal, Pearl and Meridian... who you got going down to 6A?

Meridian was 1 student from dropping to 6A. Now both Meridian and Murrah brought the old rule back that if 2 schools finished tied at the bottom they both go up. Thus you have 25 in 7A. That takes away the 41st school needed in 3A Region 8 to have 5 football teams. All of  a sudden Region 4 7A has only 4A schools to play in an open date come October on their schedule. There are no 2A schools on the coast. And no Gulfport and Ocean Springs aren't playing Resurrection. I don’t think. Maybe they can get 6A or 5A Region 4 to set up a similar Region schedule to fill an open date late in the schedule.

[Rebel Bert]

3 hours ago, maroontide06 said:

Sounds like it would be going back to the old conference days, which is not happening again.

You can't divide the state in 4 quarters and have Calhoun City or Bogue Chitto play 5A ball because they better for various reasons. That's why you divide classes by enrollment. The more populated areas have larger schools due better opportunities to succeed in life such hospitals, industry, etc. Try driving 40 miles one way to work daily because we country folks don't have high taxes etc. It's what comes with the territory. The country folks are going to live in 1A-4A school districts. The city folks live where things are nicer and attend 7A-4A schools. The association sets their own rules over time. And no you can't expect every 2A size school to play 7A schools all the time. 

[MSSportsGuy]

14 hours ago, Rebel Bert said:

Meridian was 1 student from dropping to 6A. Now both Meridian and Murrah brought the old rule back that if 2 schools finished tied at the bottom they both go up. Thus you have 25 in 7A. That takes away the 41st school needed in 3A Region 8 to have 5 football teams. All of  a sudden Region 4 7A has only 4A schools to play in an open date come October on their schedule. There are no 2A schools on the coast. And no Gulfport and Ocean Springs aren't playing Resurrection. I don’t think. Maybe they can get 6A or 5A Region 4 to set up a similar Region schedule to fill an open date late in the schedule.

To me this just illustrates why the larger regions of 8 teams are preferrable. It makes filling a schedule easier. Of course that would mean fewer classes overall and we know that's not going back in the bottle. 

[Rebel Bert]

2 hours ago, MSSportsGuy said:

To me this just illustrates why the larger regions of 8 teams are preferrable. It makes filling a schedule easier. Of course that would mean fewer classes overall and we know that's not going back in the bottle. 

I think 1A goes back to 4 regions  for scheduling. Then 6 or 8 playoff teams per region. I prefer 6 or 8 football teams per region. It's not happening in 1A with appx 12 or 14l3 non football schools.

[Rebel Bert]

Anyone seen the Tremont, Piney Woods, MSD, MSB numbers at the bottom 1A. Missing in Action.

[ccbulldog]

Having 6 team divisions with 4 making the playoffs is a joke! Under no circumstances should more than half of the teams make the playoffs. It just waters down the playoffs and results in all these 50-0 games.

[Guntriple]

I think I counted like 8 3/4 seeds that won over the 1/2 seeds. Atleast one 4 seed upset a 1 seed. You’ll see a few more this weekend in the larger classes. 
 

We used to take 3 out of 4 in basketball and baseball. 

[Rebel Bert]

17 minutes ago, Guntriple said:

I think I counted like 8 3/4 seeds that won over the 1/2 seeds. Atleast one 4 seed upset a 1 seed. You’ll see a few more this weekend in the larger classes. 
 

We used to take 3 out of 4 in basketball and baseball. 

2A North 

[Mississippi Queen]

On 11/8/2024 at 4:44 PM, Rebel Bert said:

Meridian was 1 student from dropping to 6A. Now both Meridian and Murrah brought the old rule back that if 2 schools finished tied at the bottom they both go up. Thus you have 25 in 7A. That takes away the 41st school needed in 3A Region 8 to have 5 football teams. All of  a sudden Region 4 7A has only 4A schools to play in an open date come October on their schedule. There are no 2A schools on the coast. And no Gulfport and Ocean Springs aren't playing Resurrection. I don’t think. Maybe they can get 6A or 5A Region 4 to set up a similar Region schedule to fill an open date late in the schedule.

Sumrall HS and Purvis HS are both moving up to 5A. Which means 2 current 5A schools have to be moving down to 4A. Idk who those are 2 are. But that’ll factor in as well. Sumrall and Purvis are both smack dab in between Jackson and the coast - making both available for a wide area of contests.

[Mississippi Queen]

On 9/23/2024 at 9:59 AM, coastfootballfanman said:

Coast wise I am hearing West Harrison is expected to move up and Hancock possibly as well. I read in another thread there was talk of Meridian maybe going down to 6A as well. 

This is an interesting scenario.

If WH and Hancock both move into 7A, there would have to be some realignment in North vs South, forcing a current south team to go North to make room for both the new 7A teams on the coast.

Looks to me like that would force Brandon to join Madison Central in going North alongside Tupelo, Oxford, and Starkville - making them the powerhouse region. Guessing that would not be a popular decision among those schools.

[s1nglewing]

I have wondered what an east/west alignment would possibly look like, rather than north/south.

[Rebel Bert]

36 minutes ago, Mississippi Queen said:

This is an interesting scenario.

If WH and Hancock both move into 7A, there would have to be some realignment in North vs South, forcing a current south team to go North to make room for both the new 7A teams on the coast.

Looks to me like that would force Brandon to join Madison Central in going North alongside Tupelo, Oxford, and Starkville - making them the powerhouse region. Guessing that would not be a popular decision among those schools.

NW Rankin further North than Brandon. Then Pearl is on the north side of I-20 vs Brandon on the south side of I-20. Both have been in the north in recent years.

[Rebel Bert]

Just now, Rebel Bert said:

NW Rankin further North than Brandon. Then Pearl is on the north side of I-20 vs Brandon on the south side of I-20. Both have been in the north in recent years.

 

[Rebel Bert]

34 minutes ago, s1nglewing said:

I have wondered what an east/west alignment would possibly look like, rather than north/south.

Meridian, Tupelo, Ocean Springs, Starkville, Harrison Central, Petal in Region 1.

[Rebel Bert]

40 minutes ago, Mississippi Queen said:

This is an interesting scenario.

If WH and Hancock both move into 7A, there would have to be some realignment in North vs South, forcing a current south team to go North to make room for both the new 7A teams on the coast.

Looks to me like that would force Brandon to join Madison Central in going North alongside Tupelo, Oxford, and Starkville - making them the powerhouse region. Guessing that would not be a popular decision among those schools.

What you see on page 12 of the posted classes i was told Friday night is official. It will not change. Regions are being worked on now. 

[Rebel Bert]

3 hours ago, s1nglewing said:

I have wondered what an east/west alignment would possibly look like, rather than north/south.

Rough Guess 7A

R1-Tupelo, Starkville, Meridian, Ocean Springs, D'Iberville, Biloxi

R2-Petal, Oak Grove, St Martin, Gulfport, Harrison Central, Brandon 

R3-Oxford, NW Rankin, Pearl, West Harrison, Murrah, DeSoto Central 

R4 Hernand, Lewisburg, Horn Lake, Southaven, Madison Central. Clinton, Germantown

[Rebel Bert]

3 hours ago, Rebel Bert said:

Meridian, Tupelo, Ocean Springs, Starkville, Harrison Central, Petal in Region 1.

Rough Guess 6A:

R1 Pascagoula, Gautier, George County, Saltillo, W Jones, Neshoba Central 

R2 Hancock, Hattiesburg,  Long Beach, Jim Hill, Ridgeland, Callaway

R3 Grenada, Terry, Olive Branch, Canton, PRC, Picayune 

R4 Warren Central,  Greenville, Forest Hill, Lake Cormorant, South Panola, Center Hill

[Rebel Bert]

East to west would be nightmare on travel. It will never pass. Mississippi starts in the NE Corner and moves toward the coast. Alabama starts in Mobile and moves north.

[s1nglewing]

6 hours ago, Rebel Bert said:

Meridian, Tupelo, Ocean Springs, Starkville, Harrison Central, Petal in Region 1.

You're not too bright, are you?

[Rebel Bert]

6 hours ago, s1nglewing said:

You're not too bright, are you?

You asked for an east to west alignment.  I gave you two classes. Now you see why they don't go that route. Region 1 has always started in NE Ms. Region 2 has always been south of Memphis or south of Tupelo. Region 3 has always been in the Delta. Region 4 in Starkville area. In 4A recently Region 4 north of I-20. Now that Region will be Region 5. Region 5-8 from Meridian,  then Jackson, SW Ms, Hattiesburg  area and last the coast.