Next Gulfport Head Coach

[Knucklehead Mafia]

8 minutes ago, Greyhounddad1068 said:

This is true.  The 3 women on the board, who have been quoted to not care or know anything about football, voted against hiring Bramlett.  This has mostly been about scores to settle and vendettas and nothing about what is best for the program.  Dr. Vickie Tiblier has told friends of my wife and mine that her personal goal is to get rid Dr. Coleman and change everything she accomplished.  Bramlett does not want to leave and when he spoke to one of the board members this week, he said he was ready to continue winning with the Greyhounds.         

Unbelievable! I think it's time the concerned citizens and parents of OS call a meeting with the school board and demand action. These kids have worked their tails off to succeed and there's a guy ready, willing, and able to step in and lead this team and some salty women are stonewalling it. These kids don't deserve this treatment. 

[Greyhounddad1068]

As a parent in OS of a football player I am pretty upset.  I am upset that the coaches that have already decided to leave are still allowed to be around players.  Talking to my son last night he said yeah,  Coach Green was in the weight room yesterday talking to players.  Also, my son just texted me and said that his friend has had daily calls from Coach Pennock TO HIS MOTHER asking him to go to Gulfport.  He also said that Will Smith the running back said the same thing about Pennock reaching out to his dad.  I have reached out to a couple of parents and we are making a complaint with MHSAA today. 

[Archer]

I need to scare up some popcorn for this thread.

 

I know the outgoing Superintendent is very pro athletics.  The school board would be wise to maintain that course in finding a successor.  If not, I don't envision the community tolerating an underperforming football program as standards have changed in Ocean Springs.

[JACKTOWN91]

55 minutes ago, MSHSFootballFan said:

That’s just it…that’s the dumpster fire this is!  There is no administrator at OS with authority to offer!  No superintendent, no athletic director, nothing.  Just a school board that has either created this mess, or at a minimum allowed it to happen.  And also refused to offer the job to the OC who, because he is currently on staff, could have been hired without posting the job.

 

Look at his numbers… they speak for themselves.  Even the racehorse will tell you he wouldn’t have hit water if he had fallen out of a boat his sophomore year.  Yet he threw, what, 30 TDs the next year.  Look at Pass 4 years ago. QB went from limited success to throwing for 300 ypg and became 4A POY.  David… you’ve been watching this guy for 3 yrs and don’t recognize that the top young offensive mind in the state shares a zip code with you?  Watching the OS offense the  past 3 years have been like watching a video game with bells and whistles going off all the time. Additionally, he’s  the Strength & Conditioning Coordinator.  OS didnt even look like a 6A football team before he got here. Before the past couple of years, tell me the last time you saw OS push other teams around.  No head coaching experience… get so tired of hearing that.  Pennock only had one year experience when he was hired. Prior to coordinating the offense and S & C programs for Pennock the past 4 years, Bramlett cut his teeth under THE  Marcus Boyles, coached under Boswell and Hart…  those guys only have about 10 gold balls between them.

 

 If Pennock had left before this new board stumbled and bumbled its way into authority, rest assured the AD and Superintendent would have made the hire and this whole ordeal would have been but a hiccup on the continued journey to success… staff and players intact.

 

Leave it to politics, vendettas, old scores to settle…whatever it is…and you have a top 5 program void not only of a head coach (happens… all the time) but completely void of an entire administration authorized to make a hire (the likes of which has never been seen before).  At what point does one recognize something is rotten in the state of Denmark?

Dang this dude up in here quoting Shakespeare. lol 

[Greyhounddad1068]

Being in the legal profession, I quickly read the MSHAA guidelines.  In Section 3.1 Illegal recruiting - the Coach has been in violation of at least 2 guidelines.  In fault of 3.1.2 and  3.1.5-

                         Which states 3.1.5 A student transferring from one member school to another shall be ruled ineligible for one calendar year from the date of enrollment because of “undue influence” if any of the following situations exist:

4. A student transfers to a new school within one calendar year of the relocation of his/her coach, including non-faculty, to that school.

 I will not even continue into the next sections, as there are clear violations within those guidelines.  Another parent is typing up an email currently to file a complaint and I just left a message for the principal of the highschool.  More compliants will be filed today.  Here is the general number for MSHAA is 16019246400.  If you want to leave Coach because of a financial situation I will respect that decision but, you will do it in the right way and not take down a program that supported you.

 

[Admiral1012]

27 minutes ago, Greyhounddad1068 said:

As a parent in OS of a football player I am pretty upset.  I am upset that the coaches that have already decided to leave are still allowed to be around players.  Talking to my son last night he said yeah,  Coach Green was in the weight room yesterday talking to players.  Also, my son just texted me and said that his friend has had daily calls from Coach Pennock TO HIS MOTHER asking him to go to Gulfport.  He also said that Will Smith the running back said the same thing about Pennock reaching out to his dad.  I have reached out to a couple of parents and we are making a complaint with MHSAA today. 

 

 

This is how rumors get started. Parents called Pennock and asked what they had to do to continue to play for him. Pennock is coaching in the All Star game this weekend, so I highly doubt that he has been calling mothers and fathers constantly. Give the dude a break. He took a job that offered him more money and there is no stability in the leadership of OSSD right now. I bet if the school board had cared enough he would still be there. Also, Green has not taken the job for DC heck the DC job hasn't even been posted. These are only rumors that these coaches are going with him. If a student moves to the Gulfport school district, then this is the only way they can play. MHSAA isn't going to do anything, but keep track of the players and where they are. If they move then there is nothing you can do. 

[Admiral1012]

1 minute ago, Greyhounddad1068 said:

Being in the legal profession, I quickly read the MSHAA guidelines.  In Section 3.1 Illegal recruiting - the Coach has been in violation of at least 2 guidelines.  In fault of 3.1.2 and  3.1.5-

                         Which states 3.1.5 A student transferring from one member school to another shall be ruled ineligible for one calendar year from the date of enrollment because of “undue influence” if any of the following situations exist:

4. A student transfers to a new school within one calendar year of the relocation of his/her coach, including non-faculty, to that school.

 I will not even continue into the next sections, as there are clear violations within those guidelines.  Another parent is typing up an email currently to file a complaint and I just left a message for the principal of the highschool.  More compliants will be filed today.  Here is the general number for MSHAA is 16019246400.  If you want to leave Coach because of a financial situation I will respect that decision but, you will do it in the right way and not take down a program that supported you.

 

If the parent reaches out to the coach then, he is not in violation. If the child moves to the school district, then he is not in violation. He is not forcing anybody to move or go with him. He is trying to get away from parents like you now. Absolutely ridiculous

[LeoDedo]

25 minutes ago, Greyhounddad1068 said:

As a parent in OS of a football player I am pretty upset.  I am upset that the coaches that have already decided to leave are still allowed to be around players.  Talking to my son last night he said yeah,  Coach Green was in the weight room yesterday talking to players.  Also, my son just texted me and said that his friend has had daily calls from Coach Pennock TO HIS MOTHER asking him to go to Gulfport.  He also said that Will Smith the running back said the same thing about Pennock reaching out to his dad.  I have reached out to a couple of parents and we are making a complaint with MHSAA today. 

If he thinks that he is gonna bring OS players over to replace talented / troubled GPT players with no drama or hitch, then he is delusional.  As stated before, He is not going to OS or Pass and his personality is not the best.  He better get over there and assess what he has before he starts recruiting for positions.  You are not going to Gulfport and turning them into OS (culture-wise).  He also has a habit of criticizing the previous 'regime' to promote his own.  Archie is still in the building.... And let's just say that Pennock hasn't made many friends.

[David]

I can’t speak on the makeup of the school board, but will again state that there are people available to come in, evaluate the situation, and make recommendations to the school board and the Athletic Foundation’s influential supporters as to the best hire for the job. The one I would reach out to is an ex coach at O.S. with numerous ties to the coaching community in the state. I have no idea that he might be interested in an advisory or interim position, but the longer this hangs in the air, the worse things are for the players. 
 

Again I’ll say that there are many longstanding assistants in the program who had a big part in the development and improvement of this team, including the outstanding jr hi teams, and retaining them, as they are currently working their tails off as we speak, is critical. The team as composed will be excellent again next year, especially on defense, where they bring back almost the entire starting crew. The offense will have returning contributors, even if it means tweaking the play calls to take advantage of the speed and size you’ll see there. 
 

Any possible new coach will see a program on the rise, with the new stadium situation the best on the Coast awaiting the million dollar new field house, weight room, and training rooms. The lower grades are coordinated with the game plans run at the high school, and have dominated for years, literally not losing a game by this year’s 9 th grade team. A coach coming in synced up with a new AD could put his own stamp on the program, and allow it to remain one of the top in the state. Nobody is jumping ship, even if the past coaches are reaching out to the players illegally. 

[Mack]

5 minutes ago, Greyhounddad1068 said:

Being in the legal profession, I quickly read the MSHAA guidelines.  In Section 3.1 Illegal recruiting - the Coach has been in violation of at least 2 guidelines.  In fault of 3.1.2 and  3.1.5-

                         Which states 3.1.5 A student transferring from one member school to another shall be ruled ineligible for one calendar year from the date of enrollment because of “undue influence” if any of the following situations exist:

4. A student transfers to a new school within one calendar year of the relocation of his/her coach, including non-faculty, to that school.

 I will not even continue into the next sections, as there are clear violations within those guidelines.  Another parent is typing up an email currently to file a complaint and I just left a message for the principal of the highschool.  More compliants will be filed today.  Here is the general number for MSHAA is 16019246400.  If you want to leave Coach because of a financial situation I will respect that decision but, you will do it in the right way and not take down a program that supported you.

 

I think you will also find in the MHSAA guidelines that an administrator has to be the one to file a complaint.  People from the general public calling in to report alleged violations will not likely accomplish anything, as they have no standing.

[Greyhounddad1068]

1 minute ago, Mack said:

I think you will also find in the MHSAA guidelines that an administrator has to be the one to file a complaint.  People from the general public calling in to report alleged violations will not likely accomplish anything, as they have no standing.

I did.  Which is why my call went to the principal immediately. 

[coastfootballfanman]

38 minutes ago, Greyhounddad1068 said:

As a parent in OS of a football player I am pretty upset.  I am upset that the coaches that have already decided to leave are still allowed to be around players.  Talking to my son last night he said yeah,  Coach Green was in the weight room yesterday talking to players.  Also, my son just texted me and said that his friend has had daily calls from Coach Pennock TO HIS MOTHER asking him to go to Gulfport.  He also said that Will Smith the running back said the same thing about Pennock reaching out to his dad.  I have reached out to a couple of parents and we are making a complaint with MHSAA today. 

You are aware of the players and people that Pennock and his staff recruited from other areas to come to Ocean Springs correct? I understand your frustration, but is it not a little hypocritical to be upset he is doing to you guys now, what he has done to others? 

[David]

6 minutes ago, Admiral1012 said:

 

 

This is how rumors get started. Parents called Pennock and asked what they had to do to continue to play for him. Pennock is coaching in the All Star game this weekend, so I highly doubt that he has been calling mothers and fathers constantly. Give the dude a break. He took a job that offered him more money and there is no stability in the leadership of OSSD right now. I bet if the school board had cared enough he would still be there. Also, Green has not taken the job for DC heck the DC job hasn't even been posted. These are only rumors that these coaches are going with him. If a student moves to the Gulfport school district, then this is the only way they can play. MHSAA isn't going to do anything, but keep track of the players and where they are. If they move then there is nothing you can do. 

Good point. Of course I expect you to return here to let us know when those things actually do start happening. We’re in a position to know, and you will be soon. Don’t forget to be honest with us when things start happening that we said would happen. 

[Admiral1012]

4 minutes ago, LeoDedo said:

If he thinks that he is gonna bring OS players over to replace talented / troubled GPT players with no drama or hitch, then he is delusional.  As stated before, He is not going to OS or Pass and his personality is not the best.  He better get over there and assess what he has before he starts recruiting for positions.  You are not going to Gulfport and turning them into OS (culture-wise).  He also has a habit of criticizing the previous 'regime' to promote his own.  Archie is still in the building.... And let's just say that Pennock hasn't made many friends.

Archie and Pennock are actually really close friends. He has not talked one bad thing about Archie and never plans to. This is a great program that he is coming in to. I'm guessing you have met Pennock and know his personality to be able to comment on that. 

[Mack]

3 minutes ago, Admiral1012 said:

If the parent reaches out to the coach then, he is not in violation. If the child moves to the school district, then he is not in violation. He is not forcing anybody to move or go with him. He is trying to get away from parents like you now. Absolutely ridiculous

I would have to check, but I think you are wrong on both counts.  The coach isn't even supposed to talk to the parent about it, and moving to another district to follow your previous coach used to make you ineligible.  Not sure what would have made that change.

[Greyhoundtransplant]

31 minutes ago, Archer said:

I need to scare up some popcorn for this thread.

 

I know the outgoing Superintendent is very pro athletics.  The school board would be wise to maintain that course in finding a successor.  If not, I don't envision the community tolerating an underperforming football program as standards have changed in Ocean Springs.

Pro Football. Not Pro Athletics. There’s a huge difference. 

[coastfootballfanman]

9 minutes ago, Admiral1012 said:

 

 

This is how rumors get started. Parents called Pennock and asked what they had to do to continue to play for him. Pennock is coaching in the All Star game this weekend, so I highly doubt that he has been calling mothers and fathers constantly. Give the dude a break. He took a job that offered him more money and there is no stability in the leadership of OSSD right now. I bet if the school board had cared enough he would still be there. Also, Green has not taken the job for DC heck the DC job hasn't even been posted. These are only rumors that these coaches are going with him. If a student moves to the Gulfport school district, then this is the only way they can play. MHSAA isn't going to do anything, but keep track of the players and where they are. If they move then there is nothing you can do. 

You sound like old Ocean Springs fans defending Pennock. LOL. This is great entertainment. 

[dogsoldier74]

1 minute ago, coastfootballfanman said:

You sound like old Ocean Springs fans defending Pennock. LOL. This is great entertainment. 

Feels like watching a Thanksgiving family meltdown at your girlfriend's house lol!

[coastfootballfanman]

6 minutes ago, David said:

I can’t speak on the makeup of the school board, but will again state that there are people available to come in, evaluate the situation, and make recommendations to the school board and the Athletic Foundation’s influential supporters as to the best hire for the job. The one I would reach out to is an ex coach at O.S. with numerous ties to the coaching community in the state. I have no idea that he might be interested in an advisory or interim position, but the longer this hangs in the air, the worse things are for the players. 
 

Again I’ll say that there are many longstanding assistants in the program who had a big part in the development and improvement of this team, including the outstanding jr hi teams, and retaining them, as they are currently working their tails off as we speak, is critical. The team as composed will be excellent again next year, especially on defense, where they bring back almost the entire starting crew. The offense will have returning contributors, even if it means tweaking the play calls to take advantage of the speed and size you’ll see there. 
 

Any possible new coach will see a program on the rise, with the new stadium situation the best on the Coast awaiting the million dollar new field house, weight room, and training rooms. The lower grades are coordinated with the game plans run at the high school, and have dominated for years, literally not losing a game by this year’s 9 th grade team. A coach coming in synced up with a new AD could put his own stamp on the program, and allow it to remain one of the top in the state. Nobody is jumping ship, even if the past coaches are reaching out to the players illegally. 

You are a glass completely full guy David and I respect that. However, the success of the middle school program has been because of Pennock. The 8th grade coach is only in his 2nd year and was brought in by Pennock. He has streamlined that program from top to bottom and if you look at their successes, especially lately, he is a big part of that in my opinion. As far as players leaving, be careful in thinking they will not go anywhere. You can have all the nice things and facilities in the world but if the players do not trust their coaches or get along with them, they will not stick around. Transferring today in high school football is a really, really easy thing to do. 

[Wildcats1980]

14 minutes ago, Admiral1012 said:

 

 

This is how rumors get started. Parents called Pennock and asked what they had to do to continue to play for him. Pennock is coaching in the All Star game this weekend, so I highly doubt that he has been calling mothers and fathers constantly. Give the dude a break. He took a job that offered him more money and there is no stability in the leadership of OSSD right now. I bet if the school board had cared enough he would still be there. Also, Green has not taken the job for DC heck the DC job hasn't even been posted. These are only rumors that these coaches are going with him. If a student moves to the Gulfport school district, then this is the only way they can play. MHSAA isn't going to do anything, but keep track of the players and where they are. If they move then there is nothing you can do. 

I know for a fact he is bringing six coaches with him. 

[coastfootballfanman]

[LeoDedo]

8 minutes ago, Admiral1012 said:

Archie and Pennock are actually really close friends. He has not talked one bad thing about Archie and never plans to. This is a great program that he is coming in to. I'm guessing you have met Pennock and know his personality to be able to comment on that. 

It is a fabulous program... I just don't think he fits it.  Hopefully I'm wrong for the kids' and community's sake.

[Greyhounddad1068]

2 minutes ago, coastfootballfanman said:

You sound like old Ocean Springs fans defending Pennock. LOL. This is great entertainment. 

 

12 minutes ago, Admiral1012 said:

 

 

This is how rumors get started. Parents called Pennock and asked what they had to do to continue to play for him. Pennock is coaching in the All Star game this weekend, so I highly doubt that he has been calling mothers and fathers constantly. Give the dude a break. He took a job that offered him more money and there is no stability in the leadership of OSSD right now. I bet if the school board had cared enough he would still be there. Also, Green has not taken the job for DC heck the DC job hasn't even been posted. These are only rumors that these coaches are going with him. If a student moves to the Gulfport school district, then this is the only way they can play. MHSAA isn't going to do anything, but keep track of the players and where they are. If they move then there is nothing you can do. 

Interesting, that you say that none of this is happening and speak with confidence.  When there is proof of these actions happening.  He has repeatedly reached out to up-and-coming player within the school district parents.  This has been confirmed from the athlete of receiving call and not the other way around.  Furthermore, Coach Green has already informed his defensive staff he was taking the job.  Hence you are incorrect again.  

[DapperDanMan]

6 minutes ago, coastfootballfanman said:

You are a glass completely full guy David and I respect that. However, the success of the middle school program has been because of Pennock. The 8th grade coach is only in his 2nd year and was brought in by Pennock. He has streamlined that program from top to bottom and if you look at their successes, especially lately, he is a big part of that in my opinion. As far as players leaving, be careful in thinking they will not go anywhere. You can have all the nice things and facilities in the world but if the players do not trust their coaches or get along with them, they will not stick around. Transferring today in high school football is a really, really easy thing to do. 

The 8th grade program went undefeated two years ago because of the 9th grade group they have now.  They also only won 1 game this past season because of lack of talent .  Also, that same year 8th won it all, 7th graders lost every game and went undefeated this past season.  So I don't think it is because of Pennock. 

[coastfootballfanman]

3 minutes ago, DapperDanMan said:

The 8th grade program went undefeated two years ago because of the 9th grade group they have now.  They also only won 1 game this past season because of lack of talent .  Also, that same year 8th won it all, 7th graders lost every game and went undefeated this past season.  So I don't think it is because of Pennock. 

Those coaches deserve credit do not get me wrong. But Pennock put in place the plan, structure and consistency for it. His formula, they just executed it. To perfection I may add. Not trying to discredit the junior high coaches in the slightest. Just pointing out the detail of Pennock’s plan 

Edited December 15, 2022 by coastfootballfanman