Kids moving schools

[ManCoverage]

What's with kids moving schools these days?  I remember when I was a kid that we had pride in playing for the community we grew up in.  Also, how can a family decide they are just going to up and leave for dang high school football.  Blows my mind because they have to physically move for it all to workout.

[coastfootballfanman]

19 minutes ago, ManCoverage said:

What's with kids moving schools these days?  I remember when I was a kid that we had pride in playing for the community we grew up in.  Also, how can a family decide they are just going to up and leave for dang high school football.  Blows my mind because they have to physically move for it all to workout.

Exposure, program prestige, specific coaches, skill trainers (influence), and living incentives in some cases are all reasons for kids to move. If you have a child who lives in lets say, Seminary who is a really talented football player. You pick up and move 30 minutes to Oak Grove. Your child is now playing for a program that competes for state championships, sends several kids to D1 colleges most years, has a head coach with great connections at the next level. Small town community pride is pretty much dead in today's day and age. Recruiting and Exposure is on a nation level. 20+ years ago and further, recruiting was regional so smaller schools got seen more because a lot of schools were not branching out on a national level. Recruiting budgets are higher than ever so now teams are literally able to recruit the entire country. You have skill trainers that work with these kids and can say look, you're at XYZ school that is not very good. Go over to ABC school. They are 6-7A, they send kids D1, facilities are great, etc. It will be great for you. Some places are able to offer employment opportunities or housing to help a family that could be struggling. If Biloxi is offering a single mother of 2-4 kids cheaper/free housing and employment (or better paying employment), why would she not want to move her kid there?

[ManCoverage]

I don't disagree with some of your statement at all.  In some cases it makes sense for family to move for jobs and things of that nature.  I'm talking strictly for football, picking up and moving.  I also don't know why a kid that has 15 D1 offers needs to move to another place to prove himself if he already has the exposure and can pick his place (like the kid at quitman).  I can also see if your moving to a better school in general, but some of these guys are leaving top academic schools to go try and play ball based off of recommendations from 7v7 coaches that play games with kids as a hobby.  Everyone blows my mind but it just looks like the transfer portal in college has trickled down and NIL is next.

[Former Coach]

The "kid need to be in a bigger school for exposure" is the number 1 recruiting non truth out there. If a kid can play, college coaches are going to know about him. They talk to coaches, see them on Hudl and other video systems, and most importantly they get them on campus in their camps. As the previous posters mentioned, it boils down to the personal trainers, 7v7 coaches, and handlers, trying to get their hands on them. Personal trainers and 7v7 has turned into AAU basketball. And that's not a good thing.

Does the kid from Quitman need to be at a 7A school? The Hatch kid from Biggersville is going to Louisville over several other offers. Bassfield/JDC has put several players in Power 5 schools over the years. It's a trickle down from college, parents and kids see college players transferring yearly so they want that publicity. 

[ManCoverage]

10 minutes ago, Former Coach said:

The "kid need to be in a bigger school for exposure" is the number 1 recruiting non truth out there. If a kid can play, college coaches are going to know about him. They talk to coaches, see them on Hudl and other video systems, and most importantly they get them on campus in their camps. As the previous posters mentioned, it boils down to the personal trainers, 7v7 coaches, and handlers, trying to get their hands on them. Personal trainers and 7v7 has turned into AAU basketball. And that's not a good thing.

Does the kid from Quitman need to be at a 7A school? The Hatch kid from Biggersville is going to Louisville over several other offers. Bassfield/JDC has put several players in Power 5 schools over the years. It's a trickle down from college, parents and kids see college players transferring yearly so they want that publicity. 

I would also like to add to this and it may hurt some feelings, but if you are beaten out of a starting spot in high school maybe you should just work harder.  College guys get word that a guy is scared to compete and will jump ship.

[ManCoverage]

Just now, ManCoverage said:

I would also like to add to this and it may hurt some feelings, but if you are beaten out of a starting spot in high school maybe you should just work harder.  College guys get word that a guy is scared to compete and will jump ship.

Also some people are just not meant to be college athletes.  Have fun in high school.  Genetics mean an awful lot as well

[Dubaction]

I’m probably gonna be in the minority here. If a family wants to pick up and move to another area for whatever reason that’s their business.  Including high school football. Nothing wrong with wanting to put your child in a better position to succeed if you’re able to do it. Academically and physically. 

[coastfootballfanman]

44 minutes ago, Former Coach said:

The "kid need to be in a bigger school for exposure" is the number 1 recruiting non truth out there. If a kid can play, college coaches are going to know about him. They talk to coaches, see them on Hudl and other video systems, and most importantly they get them on campus in their camps. As the previous posters mentioned, it boils down to the personal trainers, 7v7 coaches, and handlers, trying to get their hands on them. Personal trainers and 7v7 has turned into AAU basketball. And that's not a good thing.

Does the kid from Quitman need to be at a 7A school? The Hatch kid from Biggersville is going to Louisville over several other offers. Bassfield/JDC has put several players in Power 5 schools over the years. It's a trickle down from college, parents and kids see college players transferring yearly so they want that publicity. 

I agree for the most part. However, I do also believe there is merit in that statement. Some younger talent gets discovered because a college is coming by and notices that upcoming freshmen that is a great player. SEC coaches ARE going to come to Oak Grove every single spring. The same cannot be said for a Seminary or Mr. Olive type of program. So I do believe for some kids, especially the younger 8-10th grade, going to a school like Oak Grove, Madison Central, Thompson (AL), etc. give them a real chance for more exposure and being seen. 

 

Dear from Quitman is obviously special but he also benefits from having a serious connection to Lawrence Hopkins who has been handling/helping recruiting for a lot of players in Mississippi. Having him in your corner, appears to be a BIG boost for schools to come over you. 

 

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[ManCoverage]

1 minute ago, Dubaction said:

I’m probably gonna be in the minority here. If a family wants to pick up and move to another area for whatever reason that’s their business.  Including high school football. Nothing wrong with wanting to put your child in a better position to succeed if you’re able to do it. Academically and physically. 

I guess your right.  I just don't get it.  If you can play they will find you.  

[positiveyard33]

Y’all keep using him as an example, did the kid from Quitman move?

[ManCoverage]

1 minute ago, positiveyard33 said:

Y’all keep using him as an example, did the kid from Quitman move?

Just a rumor I heard.  I have no idea.

[Admiral4Life]

It's the "cool" thing to do now.  If you transfer, people will talk about you.  It puts your name on social media and allows you to make the "After a great conversation with Coach ______ I'm taking my talents to _______." post on social media. They get lots of likes and messages and feel important.

 

What you actually can and do is less important than being talked about and having "clout" on social media.  

 

They're waaaaaaay too focused on things that don't actually matter and aren't important in reality.  

Edited April 19, 2024 by Admiral4Life

[pancho]

I know folks who claimed to be separated only to acquire a different mailing address so their kid could play baseball at another school.  One now has the father living in a pull type camper at an Rv park and getting mail there so his son can play baseball at a certain school.  Others simply enroll and never relocate and simply aren't reported by school officials.

[FBdude]

The kid from Quitman moving would be sad imo. They have the talent to win 4A south and are about to be much better coached than they have been since Bynum days. People on here like to put Teddy down but plain and simple fact is he is a winner. 
 

Everyone who saw Dear as a Freshman or Soph knew he was a power 5 player. Third party advisor  nor a bigger school is needed for him to get to a high level.

 

However it is his and his family’s decision. 

Edited April 20, 2024 by FBdude

[Bulldogs4]

Yawn. 

This is nothing new. When I was in HS in the 1970’s another school stole our best basketball player by setting the father up with a cushy job and taking care of their moving expenses and gave them a new vehicle or two as well. 
And it was perfectly legal to do so. Of course all of the above was done unofficially. 
The school was a couple of counties over so not in the same district but in the same general region. 

[Pull-A-Roy]

I remember there was talk of the Keyes kid at Taylorsville going to petal . Somebody made the statement that it was for exposure . I remember thinking to myself heck Taylorsville has put out more major college players and nfl players than petal . I believe his parents squashed that idea and said it was just gossip . 

[Dubaction]

2 hours ago, FBdude said:

The kid from Quitman moving would be sad imo. They have the talent to win 4A south and are about to be much better coached than they have been since Bynum days. People on here like to put Teddy down but plain and simple fact is he is a winner. 
 

Everyone who saw Dear as a Freshman or Soph knew he was a power 5 player. Third party advisor  nor Oak Grove is needed for him to get to a high level.

 

However it is his and his family’s decision. 

Serious question….What does OG have to do with this?

[Pull-A-Roy]

1 hour ago, Dubaction said:

Serious question….What does OG have to do with this?

 

1 hour ago, Dubaction said:

Serious question….What does OG have to do with this?

Not sure about oak grove , but he is right about  third party advisors . In most cases they are a joke . 

[FBdude]

6 hours ago, Dubaction said:

Serious question….What does OG have to do with this?

Just an example for a bigger school, my apologies.

Edited April 20, 2024 by FBdude

[Chunky6617]

On 4/19/2024 at 9:54 AM, Former Coach said:

The "kid need to be in a bigger school for exposure" is the number 1 recruiting non truth out there. If a kid can play, college coaches are going to know about him. They talk to coaches, see them on Hudl and other video systems, and most importantly they get them on campus in their camps. As the previous posters mentioned, it boils down to the personal trainers, 7v7 coaches, and handlers, trying to get their hands on them. Personal trainers and 7v7 has turned into AAU basketball. And that's not a good thing.

Does the kid from Quitman need to be at a 7A school? The Hatch kid from Biggersville is going to Louisville over several other offers. Bassfield/JDC has put several players in Power 5 schools over the years. It's a trickle down from college, parents and kids see college players transferring yearly so they want that publicity. 

Exactly. Kids don’t move because they want to. They move because their parents think they should. It’s not the 1980’s and 1990’s anymore. If a kid is good enough to play at the next level, he will get exposure no matter what school he goes to. 

[Chunky6617]

These bigger schools recruit the better players from smaller schools, whether they admit it or not. Oak Grove, Hattiesburg, West Jones… they all recruit players from smaller schools. Heck they start doing it the youth level, especially the bigger south Mississippi schools. Oak Grove and West Jones right now are actively trying to recruit kids from small schools close to them. I will say in west jones case, I have no problem with them stealing kids from Taylorsville because stole players from them back in the 90’s. 

[BigT]

My son played at Taylorsville in the 90s,graduated in 96 and I don't recall a single player from west Jones being recruited! They didn't need any west Jones players and dominated west Jones for years! If anyone from west went to Taylorsville it was in the end of the 90s! 

[Chunky6617]

9 hours ago, BigT said:

My son played at Taylorsville in the 90s,graduated in 96 and I don't recall a single player from west Jones being recruited! They didn't need any west Jones players and dominated west Jones for years! If anyone from west went to Taylorsville it was in the end of the 90s! 

They would get their parents jobs at GP, then get them in school at Tville. 

[BigT]

As I said my son played 92 thru 95 and I knew every kid personally, they were at my home almost daily and non were transferred from west Jones, I don't know about the later years!

[mout25]

Is the RB from Quitman possibly going to Meridian?