Biloxi

[maroontide06]

45 minutes ago, coastfootballfanman said:

Brother, Nick Saban would have went 0-10 with Bay High this year. LOL They were one of the worst teams I have seen in my life. 

Dodd didn't win at Bay in 1989 either.  It's still the same there.

[Admiral4Life]

On 12/16/2025 at 8:54 AM, coastfootballfanman said:

Not many coaches who are serious about winning are going to line up to teach 2-3 classes and not have all their players in the athletic block. Not to mention not having all assistants either during those periods. Biloxi pretends to take athletics serious, but like many schools on the coast, do not. If they were willing to bend and do what it takes to really win, I think they could find some real consistent success. Too many schools feel that athletics and academics cannot go hand in hand. They feel one must suffer or the other and often choose academics (obviously) which holds back their athletic programs. 

Coaches are paid as teachers too.  You can't justify paying a full teaching salary to someone who only works 1-2 periods a day.  Teaching is part of the job as well.  Not taking academics seriously hurts the children more than a losing season does.  Athletics and academics can go hand in hand.  Neither needs to suffer.  They both have to be taken care of.  There is absolutely NOTHING gained by a football team that wins a few more games but the athletes are allowed to get away with murder in the classroom because our lord and savior Holy Football has to win some games.  It's a TERRIBLE lesson to teach these young men.

[Admiral4Life]

1 hour ago, Vott said:

I know nothing about the smaller schools on the coast and I wont judge on just one season, but didnt Coach French just go 0-10 at Bay this past season.

No coach in any sport can be judged off of 1 season based on record alone.  It takes at least 3 years to build a solid base and culture, especially if the previous culture was not a winning one.  Now, if he's 0-30 after 3 years then judgement can be passed.  That said, Bay is a tough place to win in football.  Most of the athletes in that area are either at Pass or Hancock.

[coastfootballfanman]

1 minute ago, Admiral4Life said:

Coaches are paid as teachers too.  You can't justify paying a full teaching salary to someone who only works 1-2 periods a day.  Teaching is part of the job as well.  Not taking academics seriously hurts the children more than a losing season does.  Athletics and academics can go hand in hand.  Neither needs to suffer.  They both have to be taken care of.  There is absolutely NOTHING gained by a football team that wins a few more games but the athletes are allowed to get away with murder in the classroom because our lord and savior Holy Football has to win some games.  It's a TERRIBLE lesson to teach these young men.

I am not sure if you took that last part from my post, but I never implied or said that. I am speaking of personal knowledge that MANY districts do not require HFC's to teach any class. Your HFC should be in the hall ways helping with discipline, getting players recruited, fundraising, etc. How can you expect to have a successful team and coach by having them teach 2-3 classes a day AND build a program? MANY districts only require assistant coaches to teach 2 blocks per day, planning a 3rd block and football 4th block. I know for a FACT that Gulfport High School has at minimum of 3 coaches that do not teach a single subject. Again, my point was you have to be willing to figure out how to make it work. Many schools on the coast do not try. They do not give the true support programs need and that is why in 25 years, the coast has had 3 teams play for a state title in the highest classification? Times are different now. Look around the state, the top programs, coaches, etc. They are not in the classroom very often. If you want to build a successful program, you have to figure it out. Just because a coach does not teach a class does not mean the players will not still have discipline and expectations. 

[Admiral4Life]

1 minute ago, coastfootballfanman said:

I am not sure if you took that last part from my post, but I never implied or said that. I am speaking of personal knowledge that MANY districts do not require HFC's to teach any class. Your HFC should be in the hall ways helping with discipline, getting players recruited, fundraising, etc. How can you expect to have a successful team and coach by having them teach 2-3 classes a day AND build a program? MANY districts only require assistant coaches to teach 2 blocks per day, planning a 3rd block and football 4th block. I know for a FACT that Gulfport High School has at minimum of 3 coaches that do not teach a single subject. Again, my point was you have to be willing to figure out how to make it work. Many schools on the coast do not try. They do not give the true support programs need and that is why in 25 years, the coast has had 3 teams play for a state title in the highest classification? Times are different now. Look around the state, the top programs, coaches, etc. They are not in the classroom very often. If you want to build a successful program, you have to figure it out. Just because a coach does not teach a class does not mean the players will not still have discipline and expectations. 

The head coach at most schools is an administrator and I agree but the same should apply to all head coaches, especially of the major sports.  

The last part was aimed at the crowd that wants to sacrifice discipline, behavior standards, and academic success on the altar of a winning football team.  As far as the assistant coaches, they should absolutely be teaching classes.  It's disgraceful and hypocritical to the Nth degree for coaches to not have classes or some type of legitimate duties.  They should have classes to teach, an off/planning period, and their athletic duties.  This is especially true if they are being paid as teachers.  If they're only receiving a coaching supplement then I have less of an issue with it.

[hasbeen67]

For some kids the disciple and accountability they are exposed to in athletics may be just as important as academics. It may be the only place they see it. Not putting one over the other, I think athletics and academics can be equally important parts of the educational process. Great coaches, I think, want their kids to be successful at both. Being successful might look different in different cases.  

Edited December 17, 2025 by hasbeen67

[Vott]

3 hours ago, Admiral4Life said:

The head coach at most schools is an administrator and I agree but the same should apply to all head coaches, especially of the major sports.  

The last part was aimed at the crowd that wants to sacrifice discipline, behavior standards, and academic success on the altar of a winning football team.  As far as the assistant coaches, they should absolutely be teaching classes.  It's disgraceful and hypocritical to the Nth degree for coaches to not have classes or some type of legitimate duties.  They should have classes to teach, an off/planning period, and their athletic duties.  This is especially true if they are being paid as teachers.  If they're only receiving a coaching supplement then I have less of an issue with it.

Most coaches teach PE and tells the kids to just do whatever and dont get hurt. The other coaches teach drivers ed. When I was in school we had maybe 5 coaches who taught a major class like English History Biology or Algebra.

[BallCoach]

Got word that Jeff Stockstill may be interested in Biloxi. Just like Pennock, maybe trying to use success at Pass Christian to secure a big job after being passed over a couple cycles ago. Guy has won every where he has gone and that coaching staff at The Pass is one of the best in the state. Would be a big hire if they can pull him away from The Pass and bring his staff with him.

[maroontide06]

7 minutes ago, BallCoach said:

Got word that Jeff Stockstill may be interested in Biloxi. Just like Pennock, maybe trying to use success at Pass Christian to secure a big job after being passed over a couple cycles ago. Guy has won every where he has gone and that coaching staff at The Pass is one of the best in the state. Would be a big hire if they can pull him away from The Pass and bring his staff with him.

I guess we will see if there's any smoke behind that.  He would do great anywhere and when I say anywhere, you can take that literally.  Just drop a random pin on Google Maps anywhere on the globe LOL.

[Merlin]

Depends on if he has to teach classes or how many.  

[Rebel Bert]

Stock took Raleigh to south state i believe in his second year and they have been on a roll. He will probably take at least one who played for him at Raleigh and has been with him since college.

[s1nglewing]

Eric Collier is Biloxi's new HC

[doyouevencoachbro]

1 hour ago, s1nglewing said:

Eric Collier is Biloxi's new HC

 

So Jamey Dubose but without the same resume?  Who will Biloxi's next coach be in 2 years?

[RUNNINGMAN67]

They must just want to continue the momentum built by DuBoise.

[maroontide06]

29 minutes ago, RUNNINGMAN67 said:

They must just want to continue the momentum built by DuBoise.

Runningman, I wouldn’t necessarily call it momentum.  It’s more like maintaining the status quo.  To try to put this into the right context without being so blunt, these Alabama coaches leave a whole lot to be desired.  Simply put, they fall short and a school like Biloxi is perfectly ok with that.

[Ghost of Howard Cosell]

Biloxi luvs them Pappy Buttermilk Biscuits!!

[coastball]

On 12/17/2025 at 11:31 AM, Admiral4Life said:

Coaches are paid as teachers too.  You can't justify paying a full teaching salary to someone who only works 1-2 periods a day.  Teaching is part of the job as well.  Not taking academics seriously hurts the children more than a losing season does.  Athletics and academics can go hand in hand.  Neither needs to suffer.  They both have to be taken care of.  There is absolutely NOTHING gained by a football team that wins a few more games but the athletes are allowed to get away with murder in the classroom because our lord and savior Holy Football has to win some games.  It's a TERRIBLE lesson to teach these young men.

Amen. Well said sir

[Rebel Bert]

On 12/17/2025 at 11:31 AM, Admiral4Life said:

Coaches are paid as teachers too.  You can't justify paying a full teaching salary to someone who only works 1-2 periods a day.  Teaching is part of the job as well.  Not taking academics seriously hurts the children more than a losing season does.  Athletics and academics can go hand in hand.  Neither needs to suffer.  They both have to be taken care of.  There is absolutely NOTHING gained by a football team that wins a few more games but the athletes are allowed to get away with murder in the classroom because our lord and savior Holy Football has to win some games.  It's a TERRIBLE lesson to teach these young men.

Coaches have 1 to 2 blocks for Jr High football, and maybe 1 block at 2pm to start coaching High School. In the 80s we got out of 5th block at 1:50 for breakfast and Bobby Hall expected you to be in full gear and ready to practice at 2 pm. And if you know anything about what is now Raleigh Elementary woe unto you if you had 11th/12th English in the classroom across from the Baptist church you didn't have time for break. So with that being said a coach can spend 3 blocks a day coaching and 3 blocks a day teaching. And its not that hard to teach history or geography.  

[coastball]

16 minutes ago, Rebel Bert said:

Coaches have 1 to 2 blocks for Jr High football, and maybe 1 block at 2pm to start coaching High School. In the 80s we got out of 5th block at 1:50 for breakfast and Bobby Hall expected you to be in full gear and ready to practice at 2 pm. And if you know anything about what is now Raleigh Elementary woe unto you if you had 11th/12th English in the classroom across from the Baptist church you didn't have time for break. So with that being said a coach can spend 3 blocks a day coaching and 3 blocks a day teaching. And its not that hard to teach history or geography.  

Where do you teach btw?

[Rebel Bert]

2 minutes ago, coastball said:

Where do you teach btw?

I don't  teach. I just know that each district has a different schedule. Some 6 blocks and others have 7 blocks. While Rankin County starts school at 7:30 am and Smith County starts at 8 am. I have family members that teach, principal,  etc. I don't know for sure but I am guessing that high school sports probably starts at 3 pm now for most schools. 

[Vott]

40 minutes ago, Rebel Bert said:

I don't  teach. I just know that each district has a different schedule. Some 6 blocks and others have 7 blocks. While Rankin County starts school at 7:30 am and Smith County starts at 8 am. I have family members that teach, principal,  etc. I don't know for sure but I am guessing that high school sports probably starts at 3 pm now for most schools. 

My how school schedule have changed since I was in school. I had six periods. 4 of which were your main subjects of math history english and science. 2 elective subject ranging from P.E. to Home Economics. Started at 8am got out at 3pm. If you played a sport practice started at 330. Were done by 6pm.

[Ghost of Howard Cosell]

Retread hire… get resumes ready again in 2-3 years. 

[TheAnswer]

On 1/21/2026 at 8:46 PM, maroontide06 said:

Runningman, I wouldn’t necessarily call it momentum.  It’s more like maintaining the status quo.  To try to put this into the right context without being so blunt, these Alabama coaches leave a whole lot to be desired.  Simply put, they fall short and a school like Biloxi is perfectly ok with that.

Alabama coaches are to the MHSAA exactly what retired MHSAA coaches are to the MAIS.

[watchyalips]

On 1/22/2026 at 12:48 PM, coastball said:

Where do you teach btw?

Teaching is a profession where only a few are willing to actually do it, and out of those, only a handful are actually good at it. But for some reason, almost everyone thinks they're qualified to speak on how easy the job is. 

[coastball]

1 hour ago, watchyalips said:

Teaching is a profession where only a few are willing to actually do it, and out of those, only a handful are actually good at it. But for some reason, almost everyone thinks they're qualified to speak on how easy the job is. 

Amen