Moves

[Rawcones]

42 minutes ago, doyouevencoachbro said:

 

They didn't know only certain Coaches are allowed to recruit by the MHSAA.  Mostly at the 7A level.  

 

[pancho]

Tupelo sure was offended years ago when TCPS was attempting to poach their players but it was okay last season when tupelo poached some guys from Nettleton. one even had to sit out the season due to the screw ups. I guess it all depends on who you are and how much cash you can sling.

[Chunky6617]

2 hours ago, doyouevencoachbro said:

 

They didn't know only certain Coaches are allowed to recruit by the MHSAA.  Mostly at the 7A level.  

West Jones been recruiting for a long time. 

[coastball]

On 5/29/2025 at 6:34 PM, Rebel Bert said:

Must have residence established and approved paper work by July 1 every year. How many get a P.O. Box?

P.O Box is not "supposed" to count for verified established residence, and any school has the right to do do "checks" on that type of situation but they don't. Most just use relatives house addresses in the district and say they "moved". Another exploited area is that of "custody" / separation and kids bouncing from parent to parent residences. Idf the MHSAA really cared , they'd create a legitimate enforcement branch of their organization, but they don't care.

[coastball]

On 5/30/2025 at 10:54 AM, Rawcones said:

 

You are soooo correct . It's who you know for sure!

[Greyhoundtransplant]

On 5/29/2025 at 6:34 PM, Rebel Bert said:

Must have residence established and approved paper work by July 1 every year. How many get a P.O. Box?

Not really sure where that date comes from. That's not written anywhere in the handbook. There are constantly moving parts. For a "move" it can essentially be done anytime before the first game. 

[Greyhoundtransplant]

2 hours ago, coastball said:

P.O Box is not "supposed" to count for verified established residence, and any school has the right to do do "checks" on that type of situation but they don't. Most just use relatives house addresses in the district and say they "moved". Another exploited area is that of "custody" / separation and kids bouncing from parent to parent residences. Idf the MHSAA really cared , they'd create a legitimate enforcement branch of their organization, but they don't care.

As long as they are getting their money, they aren't overly concerned.  Unless someone files a complaint, even then 80 percent of the time nothing will happen. They've shown that repeatedly over the last several years. 

[pancho]

they don't care. I know of couples who claim to be separated and use a RV park as a residence so their son can play baseball elsewhere. 

[Old Golfer]

Oooooo

Edited June 3, 2025 by Old Golfer

[PineBelter]

On 5/11/2025 at 2:59 PM, coastball said:

Is that Edward from PCS, the Edward Ruffin I think is his name?? He moved from PCS to Oak Grove ?

Can speak for the others, but odds are if he was at PCS and is going to Oak Grove, he probably was already living in Oak Grove's boundary zone. 

[Vott]

Honest question for all of you: Do any of you really and truly get angry if a team that you play in your region or maybe in the playoffs every year gets players to move in every year? Or could it be a little bit of jealousy that those move ins are not wanting to come to your school? 

[Merlin]

Laurel 4 star o-lineman Tyler Miller that signed with LSU was recruited from west jones.  He played junior high ball at WJ but his parents split, with his dad moving to Laurel.  He used his dad’s address but lives with his mom in Soso. They threw the whole “we have black coaches and we get you. They can’t get us.  We win titles here”.  So he went, did not win a title while WJ did. He wanted to transfer back to WJ his senior year and told a whole bunch of people about the toxic atmosphere at Laurel in the locker room.  Actively kept several WJ kids that Laurel was recruiting hard from a community that is in the WJ district but is up against the Laurel city limits from even considering moving over. 
 

South Jones had their best wr and probably best returning player recruited away by petal. 
 

 

[Merlin]

On 5/30/2025 at 7:11 AM, Chunky6617 said:

They ruled the player ineligible. WJ had been trying to recruit him for a while. 

Wrong.  It will be corrected soon.  Someone submitted false info to MHSAA cause he was mad the kids left and that he didn’t get the WJ job a couple years ago, 

Edited June 4, 2025 by Merlin

[Chunky6617]

3 hours ago, Merlin said:

Wrong.  It will be corrected soon.  Someone submitted false info to MHSAA cause he was mad the kids left and that he didn’t get the WJ job a couple years ago, 

West has been recruiting the kid. I first heard about it 2 years ago before Brady was even at Stringer. West Jones has been recruiting for several years, I know this for a fact. It’s not a guess. 

[Merlin]

1 hour ago, Chunky6617 said:

West has been recruiting the kid. I first heard about it 2 years ago before Brady was even at Stringer. West Jones has been recruiting for several years, I know this for a fact. It’s not a guess. 

In know where they live it’s in the community I grew up in.  Several streets there on the jones county side of the jones-jasper county line the family can choose to which school to send them and the people they loved with chose stringer. There is a similar area on the jones-smith county line with taylorsville zip code for example but in jones county.  A lot of Keyes family lives there some went to WJ some to Taylorsville.  But in this situation the kids have since moved squarely into the “you go to west jones” side.  The sister was cleared by MHSAA to play basketball at west back in January.  Someone got his panties in a wad and lied to the MHSAA and there may be some legal repercussions.  The kids will be fully cleared at west before fall practice starts you can bet on that. 

[Chunky6617]

1 hour ago, Merlin said:

In know where they live it’s in the community I grew up in.  Several streets there on the jones county side of the jones-jasper county line the family can choose to which school to send them and the people they loved with chose stringer. There is a similar area on the jones-smith county line with taylorsville zip code for example but in jones county.  A lot of Keyes family lives there some went to WJ some to Taylorsville.  But in this situation the kids have since moved squarely into the “you go to west jones” side.  The sister was cleared by MHSAA to play basketball at west back in January.  Someone got his panties in a wad and lied to the MHSAA and there may be some legal repercussions.  The kids will be fully cleared at west before fall practice starts you can bet on that. 

If I were a betting man, I would bet that you will end up being disappointed. Maybe not though, I am not super familiar with this situation. But I do know that Stringer has been prepared for this to happen, because they knew that west jones was recruiting the kid for a while now. Like I said, I knew about it 2 years ago when Brady was still at bay springs. If you think Brady went to the MHSAA without plenty of evidence of WJ recruiting the kid, you would be wrong. And I don’t have a dog in the fight, so it’s nothing to me. But I do know WJ recruited one of our best players away a few years ago and our head coach at that time didn’t care enough to protest it and just allowed it to happen. So I’m kind of glad to see them get burned this time around, I won’t lie. 

[Money05]

3 hours ago, Merlin said:

In know where they live it’s in the community I grew up in.  Several streets there on the jones county side of the jones-jasper county line the family can choose to which school to send them and the people they loved with chose stringer. There is a similar area on the jones-smith county line with taylorsville zip code for example but in jones county.  A lot of Keyes family lives there some went to WJ some to Taylorsville.  But in this situation the kids have since moved squarely into the “you go to west jones” side.  The sister was cleared by MHSAA to play basketball at west back in January.  Someone got his panties in a wad and lied to the MHSAA and there may be some legal repercussions.  The kids will be fully cleared at west before fall practice starts you can bet on that. 

 

The kid lived squarely in Jasper County a good 3-4 miles from the Jones County line at the time coaches were reaching out to him starting 2 years ago as said above. Even if he is saying he lives in West Jones school district now he was being recruited while living out of district. MHSAA is aware of that and I am quite sure has concrete evidence of the fact which played into the ineligibility. West has been recruiting kids from Jasper and Smith counties to come play for years, and someone finally got tired of it. If it was vise versa you guys would feel the same way. It sucks the kid has to suffer because he is an outstanding player, but I’m sure private school ball is still on the table for him if someone can pay his way. Doubt he’s playing as a Mustang in the fall though.

[Merlin]

There are multiple areas in jones county and the surrounding counties where just can choose a school. Always has been.  There are areas in south jones vpu ty that has Seminary zip codes and kids can go to either.  I know there are kids that played for seminary living in Moselle.  An area of ovette kids can go to petal.  Areas of estabuchi they can go to petal or south jones.  Areas of Heidelberg or sandersville they can go to Heidelberg or northeast jones.  Areas of stringer they can go to stringer or west. I went to school with kids that were st one or the other every year or two since elementary school.  I dated s girl that lives in gitano community but had taylorsville address and could have went wherever as school buses got each district passed by the house.  I know for a fact there are multiple instances of MHSAA looking into kids that lived in some of these areas and changed schools and let it go due to the school districts having agreements with each other.  
 

not saying that has any bearing here.  I will say the kid in question did not live with their parent for reasons not part of this forum, but they do now. And Where they live now is what matters.  That is in jones county.  

[Southpikeboy2]

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[Money05]

I am familiar with the player’s previous and current living situation you are referring to. It goes back to does MHSAA have proof of contact between player in question and WJ coach while he was attending Stringer. Various sources say this 100% occurred during his freshman year and going forward before move was made from family member in Jasper to family member in Jones. This is what MHSAA I would assume is looking at more than just a simple move over district borders that stemmed from something externally as you’re pointing towards.

 

I just don’t see him being ruled ineligible already without the MHSAA having some legitimate hard evidence. Maybe I am wrong. Who knows. I just feel it’s unfortunate that this situation could impact his future for the long term not only in football but as a whole. Hopefully no matter the outcome it will be a lesson learned for everyone involved.

[hasbeen67]

I'm ignorant of the rules, but even if there is recruiting, if the family moves legally into the district are they ineligible? MHSAA can't prevent people from moving.

[Chunky6617]

2 hours ago, hasbeen67 said:

I'm ignorant of the rules, but even if there is recruiting, if the family moves legally into the district are they ineligible? MHSAA can't prevent people from moving.

I would think if you can prove they moved due to being recruited, the MHSAA can rule them ineligible for one year. I know alot of schools recruit, but West Jones has gotten a little too brazen about it last few years evidently. 

[Merlin]

They didn’t move due to being recruited.  They moved due to a legal consequence and some information was intentionally modified ( lied ) to the MHSAA by the party that reported it as being due to recruiting.  The fact is even if they were recruited 2 years prior, they did not move to WJ until after the legal stuff was basically dealt with and the living situation changed which put them in the jones county school district directly. Everything was reported to MHSAA before new years and they were cleared by the MHSAA shortly after.  Then months later someone whose ass is still on fire about it does things to result in this situation.  
 

 

Now, a story from my personal experience. I am not saying this is the same type situation that’s going on with the topic, I’m just giving Insight into some things that could go on and some lines that should not be crossed, or can’t be, when kids move school districts due to legal matters with the family.  A lot of this stuff is court ordered and sealed.  Only certain parties are allowed access to the information without a petition to the court.  So if a kid living in x school district with b relative for years suddenly gets moved to c relative on court orders, there literally may be 10 people or less in the know. And all the school needs is a copy of the court order stating who kids live with and the address of said person confirmed by id or water and power bill.  Thats it.  Nothing else can be said or done it has to be accepted. So if MHSAA says “sorry this person does not believe those kids live with you in this district now because the prior school says they still live in that district” then they are ignoring a court order.  And calls get made. And judges do not like getting those calls. And MHSAA certainly does not want to be brought into that.  
 

Actually due to the situation I was involved in I now need to call the jones college presidents office, again, next week due to the morons in their financial aid office, again, not accepting court orders. Even after the judge sent them a letter last semester that they accepted. 

Edited June 6, 2025 by Merlin

[BigPoppaP]

Why do the bigger schools feel it’s necessary to poach from the smaller schools? If you’re going to recruit, then recruit from the bigger schools and leave the smaller schools alone!

[Chunky6617]

I heard West Jones just tried recruiting another kid from a different smaller school. Seems to be a trend with them. Do they not feel like they can win with the kids in their own district? 

Edited June 20, 2025 by Chunky6617