Alabama Reclassification

[Rebel Bert]

6A 4 Regions

1A-5A 8 Regions top 4 make playoffs 

Public and Private schools will have split championships.

[Wareaglefan1us]

1 hour ago, Rebel Bert said:

6A 4 Regions

1A-5A 8 Regions top 4 make playoffs 

Public and Private schools will have split championships.

I hope Mississippi takes notes and follows suit 

[Rebel Bert]

1 hour ago, Wareaglefan1us said:

I hope Mississippi takes notes and follows suit 

Agree, 5 or 6 classes are a plenty.

[Dubaction]

2 hours ago, Wareaglefan1us said:

I hope Mississippi takes notes and follows suit 

At first it didn’t bother me but I’m inclined to agree now. 

[Archer]

I would hope we'd follow their lead but the MHSAA is not led by the best and the brightest.

[coastfootballfanman]

4 minutes ago, Archer said:

I would hope we'd follow their lead but the MHSAA is not led by the best and the brightest.

Agreed. Almighty dollar is what matters most to them. 

[maroontide06]

19 minutes ago, coastfootballfanman said:

Agreed. Almighty dollar is what matters most to them. 

Bingo.

[pancho]

This will probably never happen in MS but if it did, it would be well after Neaves has finally retired and gone out to pasture.

[maroontide06]

Just now, pancho said:

This will probably never happen in MS but if it did, it would be well after Neaves has finally retired and gone out to pasture.

Fresh leadership at the MHSAA that isn't driven by filthy lucre would honestly be a breath of fresh air, but how would you even get to that point?  You would have to bring in folks with some morals and a spine, but at that level they are few and far between unfortunately.

[Bulldog 71]

The reasoning for going back to 6A has to do more with the Choose Act and private schools.  By separating the public and private schools it reduced the numbers to make it more practical for going back to 6A.  The public and private schools can still play each other during the season but they will have separate playoffs.  Research the Choose Act and how the state was paying students to transfer to private schools and the way AHSAA dealt with it by splitting public and private school playoffs. Many more private schools in AHSAA than in Mississippi. This eliminated the need for Competitive Balance for private schools.  There are around 40 private school members of AHSAA.  A few competed in the old 6A classification.  Most were 5A and below.

 

Also, AHSAA has a revenue sharing deal where they return money to member schools and they even have waived membership fees when revenue is high.  

 

I grew up in Mississippi and have been in Alabama several years.  I keep of with both states.

[MSSportsGuy]

I looked at the AHSAA site and saw their numbers. The gap between the biggest 6A and smallest is about 1000 students. I wonder if their association was worried about decreasing excitement with such a large enrollment difference. 
 

 

[Rebel Bert]

Mississippi has a problem of too many counties compared to Alabama. 82 VS 67 i believe we need to eliminate appx 15 counties. You can never eliminate the amount of students and roads to repair. What you can do is save on Superintendent's and county supervisor pay among a few other positions.  That will help a whole lot. Yes it will take a few years for kids to adjust to a new school. You might even be able to close a few more schools pending which counties are consolidated such as consolidating Lawrence and Jeff Davis or Jeff Davis and Covington as an example. We might get Bassfield back on the books.

[Wareaglefan1us]

3 hours ago, Rebel Bert said:

Mississippi has a problem of too many counties compared to Alabama. 82 VS 67 i believe we need to eliminate appx 15 counties. You can never eliminate the amount of students and roads to repair. What you can do is save on Superintendent's and county supervisor pay among a few other positions.  That will help a whole lot. Yes it will take a few years for kids to adjust to a new school. You might even be able to close a few more schools pending which counties are consolidated such as consolidating Lawrence and Jeff Davis or Jeff Davis and Covington as an example. We might get Bassfield back on the books.

When they consolidated Wayne County schools we were fed this same line. We will close all of these schools in favor of one. At the time there were three schools operating in the county elementary through high school and an elementary school, a separate Junior High School and a high school in town. All they did was move the high school students to town didn’t build a new school instead put so much money into a school that has been there since late 50’s early 60’s. They closed None of the existing schools just made them K-8. So where did Wayne County save money? You’re still employing the same amount actually more because now it seems you have a principal for every grade. You still have all the up keep that is now more on the older buildings. Running six cafeterias buying food paying workers. Bussing students from county schools to the high school daily because all don’t have means of transportation. So I understand what you’re saying but at least in Wayne County’s situation it didn’t save money the way they did it. 

[Vott]

27 minutes ago, Wareaglefan1us said:

When they consolidated Wayne County schools we were fed this same line. We will close all of these schools in favor of one. At the time there were three schools operating in the county elementary through high school and an elementary school, a separate Junior High School and a high school in town. All they did was move the high school students to town didn’t build a new school instead put so much money into a school that has been there since late 50’s early 60’s. They closed None of the existing schools just made them K-8. So where did Wayne County save money? You’re still employing the same amount actually more because now it seems you have a principal for every grade. You still have all the up keep that is now more on the older buildings. Running six cafeterias buying food paying workers. Bussing students from county schools to the high school daily because all don’t have means of transportation. So I understand what you’re saying but at least in Wayne County’s situation it didn’t save money the way they did it. 

So which counties would you eliminate?

[Rebel Bert]

1 hour ago, Wareaglefan1us said:

When they consolidated Wayne County schools we were fed this same line. We will close all of these schools in favor of one. At the time there were three schools operating in the county elementary through high school and an elementary school, a separate Junior High School and a high school in town. All they did was move the high school students to town didn’t build a new school instead put so much money into a school that has been there since late 50’s early 60’s. They closed None of the existing schools just made them K-8. So where did Wayne County save money? You’re still employing the same amount actually more because now it seems you have a principal for every grade. You still have all the up keep that is now more on the older buildings. Running six cafeterias buying food paying workers. Bussing students from county schools to the high school daily because all don’t have means of transportation. So I understand what you’re saying but at least in Wayne County’s situation it didn’t save money the way they did it. 

Wayne County would not be involved in my thinking of consolidating counties. Those in South Mississippi that might be on my list are Perry, Jeff Davis, Lawrence,  Claiborne, and Jefferson. The others would be in the the Delta, along the Tennessee line north of Oxford and in between Oxford and Starkville. 

[MSSportsGuy]

I will go a step further and say we could cut the number of counties in half. Three million is our total population and isn't exactly growing. Cut the number of counties, legislators, school districts, community colleges and IHLs in half and you are talking about serious savings. 

[Wareaglefan1us]

55 minutes ago, Rebel Bert said:

Wayne County would not be involved in my thinking of consolidating counties. Those in South Mississippi that might be on my list are Perry, Jeff Davis, Lawrence,  Claiborne, and Jefferson. The others would be in the the Delta, along the Tennessee line north of Oxford and in between Oxford and Starkville. 

I’m not saying you were talking about Wayne County. I’m asking if your reasoning to save money? Because unless you do it right you won’t save money you will spend more in the long run. I get what you’re saying number wise as far as students and population. You wouldn’t have to do away with counties you could consolidate some smaller school districts. It would cost money up front building new and bigger schools but it would save money in the long run. However you can’t continue to operate the same number of schools and save a dime.

[Rebel Bert]

8 hours ago, MSSportsGuy said:

I will go a step further and say we could cut the number of counties in half. Three million is our total population and isn't exactly growing. Cut the number of counties, legislators, school districts, community colleges and IHLs in half and you are talking about serious savings. 

50 would be a good number.

[ccbulldog]

Perry Co needs to become part of Forrest Co.

Greene and George should merge.

Kemper and Noxubee should merge

Sharky and Issuquna should both be merged into Warren.

These are just a few off the top of my head I can think of.

[Rebel Bert]

Marion and Lamar

Amite and Wilkinson