flashmob43 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Hear ye, hear ye!!! I have also heard there may be the possibility of a former HC returning to the sideline. Collins is the name, does he make a return? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroontide06 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 If he does the Maroon Tide will be ready, but in all honesty why do they need to pull out an old drum to beat? I wouldn't see this working out very well. If they good folks in Hurley had their fill of him, what makes him think he's got a bridge left to come back to Carriere that hasn't been blown up by nitro glycerin when he left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashmob43 Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, maroontide06 said: If he does the Maroon Tide will be ready, but in all honesty why do they need to pull out an old drum to beat? I wouldn't see this working out very well. If they good folks in Hurley had their fill of him, what makes him think he's got a bridge left to come back to Carriere that hasn't been blown up by nitro glycerin when he left? Hear ye, hear ye!!! It was just speculation from a stakeholder by the name of Necaise. May be just hear say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroontide06 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 Poplarville tried this model with Morris before they hired Mancuso and it didn't work out so well. PRC doesn't need to make the same mistake as Poplarville in that regard. History exists so that you can learn from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonUnit1988 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 30 minutes ago, maroontide06 said: If he does the Maroon Tide will be ready, but in all honesty why do they need to pull out an old drum to beat? I wouldn't see this working out very well. If they good folks in Hurley had their fill of him, what makes him think he's got a bridge left to come back to Carriere that hasn't been blown up by nitro glycerin when he left? I disagree. He was successful at PRC and typically coaches that are successful are welcomed back with open arms like Dolan at FCAHS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroontide06 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, CrimsonUnit1988 said: I disagree. He was successful at PRC and typically coaches that are successful are welcomed back with open arms like Dolan at FCAHS. Does PRC want to take that gamble? If so, more power to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashmob43 Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 Hear ye, hear ye! Just speculation on Collins. Correct me if I am wrong but he did have a pretty good run there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroontide06 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, flashmob43 said: Hear ye, hear ye! Just speculation on Collins. Correct me if I am wrong but he did have a pretty good run there? He went 42-31 with a district championship. They've struggled since he left, but who knows if he could make a go of it the second go round. It'll definitely be tougher than before. The wins will definitely be harder to come by, but PRC has to start somewhere. I guess I'm just skeptical if something like this would work since history has shown it here in Pearl River County that it doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mower Man 63 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 3 hours ago, flashmob43 said: Hear ye, hear ye!!! I have also heard there may be the possibility of a former HC returning to the sideline. Collins is the name, does he make a return? I don’t think so. Even though he is building a house in Carriere and would be a upgrade over the Coach that was just there, I believe he is trying to get his years in in Louisiana. He is currently the Coach at Pearl River Louisiana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroontide06 Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mower Man 63 said: I don’t think so. Even though he is building a house in Carriere and would be a upgrade over the Coach that was just there, I believe he is trying to get his years in in Louisiana. He is currently the Coach at Pearl River Louisiana. That's quite interesting. I honestly had no idea where he was or what he was doing. He can coach those Pearl River Rebels as long as he wants to for all I care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Breaker Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Any news on this job at Pearl River Central High School? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonUnit1988 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 On 2/17/2023 at 1:05 PM, maroontide06 said: Does PRC want to take that gamble? If so, more power to them. Maybe. Who knows? It’s not like they have a rich tradition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroontide06 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 hours ago, CrimsonUnit1988 said: Maybe. Who knows? It’s not like they have a rich tradition. Well they certainly don’t and they might have to loosen the restrictions (a.k.a. 4 year degree) to get someone to take the job. It would definitely increase the options and you really just need someone with some old fashioned football knowledge who can coach players up. This whole needing a 4 year degree to coach football is a serious drag in these expensive modern times in which we live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigersFan Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 10 hours ago, maroontide06 said: Well they certainly don’t and they might have to loosen the restrictions (a.k.a. 4 year degree) to get someone to take the job. It would definitely increase the options and you really just need someone with some old fashioned football knowledge who can coach players up. This whole needing a 4 year degree to coach football is a serious drag in these expensive modern times in which we live. They need a 4 year degree because they have to be certified to teach. Tis is a MHSAA rule. All major sport coaches have to be certified to teach. Kind of impossible to be a teacher with out a 4 year degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroontide06 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, TigersFan said: They need a 4 year degree because they have to be certified to teach. Tis is a MHSAA rule. All major sport coaches have to be certified to teach. Kind of impossible to be a teacher with out a 4 year degree. I'm aware of that. I just think head coaches need to coach and not have to worry about teaching a class. If a head coach was not required to teach a class, then why would they need a teaching degree? Give schools the option to hire head coaches without 4 year degrees and adjust pay accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfcoastdevil75 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Schools, students need coaches in the classroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyouevencoachbro Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, maroontide06 said: I'm aware of that. I just think head coaches need to coach and not have to worry about teaching a class. If a head coach was not required to teach a class, then why would they need a teaching degree? Give schools the option to hire head coaches without 4 year degrees and adjust pay accordingly. My head hurt. You know college coaches are required to have a Bachelor's Degree, but prefer you to have a Master's? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyouevencoachbro Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Gulfcoastdevil75 said: Schools, students need coaches in the classroom. I can understand the HC not being in a class but instead being in an administrative role so they can help deal with situations and monitor the students. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroontide06 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, doyouevencoachbro said: My head hurt. You know college coaches are required to have a Bachelor's Degree, but prefer you to have a Master's? Take some Tylenol LOL! Just kidding though. There may have been a time years ago when football was in it's infancy that Head Coaches didn't have college degrees. I realize those requirements have changed and I was just trying to think outside the box to increase the coaching pool options for PRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positiveyard33 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 minute ago, maroontide06 said: Take some Tylenol LOL! Just kidding though. There may have been a time years ago when football was in it's infancy that Head Coaches didn't have college degrees. I realize those requirements have changed and I was just trying to think outside the box to increase the coaching pool options for PRC. Ok hypothetically they waive this rule. In theory you’ve added more candidates, but are they good and qualified candidates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroontide06 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, positiveyard33 said: Ok hypothetically they waive this rule. In theory you’ve added more candidates, but are they good and qualified candidates? They would have to go through the interview process and spell out their vision just like a coach with a degree. If a candidate without a degree passes the interview process and impresses the folks who want to hire him, then I don't see anything wrong with it. He certainly wouldn't have the same pay as a coach with a degree, but maybe you can get someone who just genuinely loves to coach and has a greater passion for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1nglewing Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Isn't possession of a teaching certification a requirement for being a head coach in Mississippi, which one cannot attempt to gain without a college degree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigersFan Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, maroontide06 said: I'm aware of that. I just think head coaches need to coach and not have to worry about teaching a class. If a head coach was not required to teach a class, then why would they need a teaching degree? Give schools the option to hire head coaches without 4 year degrees and adjust pay accordingly. You realize that the majority of coaches salary comes from teaching and most get a very minimal supplement for coaching. I doubt many would put in all the time and effort for 10 to 15k a year if that's all they made! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroontide06 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, s1nglewing said: Isn't possession of a teaching certification a requirement for being a head coach in Mississippi, which one cannot attempt to gain without a college degree? Yes this is definitely correct for public schools. I'm not sure about private schools. 28 minutes ago, TigersFan said: You realize that the majority of coaches salary comes from teaching and most get a very minimal supplement for coaching. I doubt many would put in all the time and effort for 10 to 15k a year if that's all they made! Yes I completely understand where you are coming from. If a supplement could help make up some (if not all) of the shortfall for a head coach without a degree, it would give schools another avenue to hire a head coach. I realize this will never come to fruition, but if there ever was a mass shortage of head coaches in the future it might be worth looking in to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyouevencoachbro Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, maroontide06 said: Yes this is definitely correct for public schools. I'm not sure about private schools. Yes I completely understand where you are coming from. If a supplement could help make up some (if not all) of the shortfall for a head coach without a degree, it would give schools another avenue to hire a head coach. I realize this will never come to fruition, but if there ever was a mass shortage of head coaches in the future it might be worth looking in to. I can tell you there will not be a mass shortage of head coaches in football. I know a 3a school that had 50 applications and a 1a school with 40. Of course there are school with very few applicants. If you want to argue smaller sports then I agree but not football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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