CFB Week 11 Thread

[s1nglewing]

Just now, Dawg83 said:

My concern is that this version of the Air Raid may be a relic of the 90’s and 2000’s, and Leach’s unwillingness to adapt like many of his understudies have may eventually prove to be his downfall.

 

15-20 years ago the Air Raid was considered one of the more creative offenses out there. There is absolutely nothing innovative about this offense as State runs it in 2022. And the offense seems to have taken steps backwards from where it was last year and earlier this year.

 

That said, a win on Thanksgiving night would certainly change the conversation. But that feels like it’s going to be an uphill climb on the road.

 

I noticed the lack of clock management in the fourth quarter. Down by three TDs yet the ball wasn't snapped most plays until 10 seconds were left on the play clock. Dismal.

[Dawg83]

2 minutes ago, s1nglewing said:

Ole Miss blew that game at the end with four attempted passes in their last four offensive plays after gouging Alabama with the run in the same drive. Plenty of timeouts left and threw, or attempted to throw (and succeeded), the game away.

I found that a little puzzling too. Judkins was carrying the team on his back that drive and then he just didn’t get the ball anymore once OM was in the red zone.

[s1nglewing]

Plumlee showed out tonight

[MSTSatchmo]

29 minutes ago, s1nglewing said:

Ole Miss blew that game at the end with four attempted passes in their last four offensive plays after gouging Alabama with the run in the same drive. Plenty of timeouts left and threw, or attempted to throw (and succeeded), the game away.

Dart was leaving the pocket pretty quick that last quarter.  
Two things that had worked for OM all game, Judkins running and that back shoulder throw to Heath, they forgot about at the end of the game. 
 

[MSTSatchmo]

39 minutes ago, Dawg83 said:

My concern is that this version of the Air Raid may be a relic of the 90’s and 2000’s, and Leach’s unwillingness to adapt like many of his understudies have may eventually prove to be his downfall.

 

15-20 years ago the Air Raid was considered one of the more creative offenses out there. There is absolutely nothing innovative about this offense as State runs it in 2022. And the offense seems to have taken steps backwards from where it was last year and earlier this year.

 

I agree with this.  The Air Raid will never evolve because it’s just about the QB finding someone in an open space.  It seems to all be dictated by the defense.  Sometimes you have to find was to get players open and get them the ball.
If what Leach is doing isn’t working the first half, it isn’t working the second half.  There are no adjustments.  

[Dawg83]

5 hours ago, MSTSatchmo said:

I agree with this.  The Air Raid will never evolve because it’s just about the QB finding someone in an open space.  It seems to all be dictated by the defense.  Sometimes you have to find was to get players open and get them the ball.
If what Leach is doing isn’t working the first half, it isn’t working the second half.  There are no adjustments.  

Like I mentioned, my gripe has become that Leach disciples (Riley, Dykes, etc.) are having success by adapting these concepts into new variations, whereas State seems to just be running the Hal Mumme Air Raid like it’s 1998 (except Will Rogers is no Tim Couch).

Edited November 13, 2022 by Dawg83

[MSTSatchmo]

Why do PAC12 fields look like they’re 20 yards wider than the rest of the country. 
 

Better question is why am I up after midnight watching the PAC12 

Edited November 13, 2022 by MSTSatchmo

[Unionman76]

why do "modern" coaches not take the points when available ?

[Wcchaingang]

20 minutes ago, Unionman76 said:

why do "modern" coaches not take the points when available ?

I have always been in favor of taking the points early and being aggressive late.

[MSTSatchmo]

Judkins could make a lot of money this off-season.  I bet he gets offered a huge NIL deal.  

[Dawg83]

So we are now locked in to a Georgia-LSU SEC title game. LSU was picked 5th in the West in the preseason so suffices to say Kelly has exceeded expectations in Year 1. I don’t think they are beating Georgia in Atlanta, but still a great season for LSU. Probably will have a 10-2 regular season and be in an NY6 bowl. And if they somehow do beat UGA then they’ll be a Playoff team.

 

Oregon was eliminated from Playoff contention last night, USC is now the PAC 12’s only hope, and it’s a long shot.

 

TCU got a huge win in Austin. They have two unranked teams left in the regular season and then their conference title game. Win all three and they’ll be in the Playoff.

 

I continue to think Tennessee is in great shape to make the Playoff, I think they overtake the loser of Ohio State/Michigan.

 

Ole Miss’s NY6 hopes are a bit of a long shot as the 5th highest ranked SEC team. But if they win at least one of their last two they are a virtual lock for the Citrus Bowl.

 

State will be in another mid tier bowl this year. Texas Bowl, Las Vegas Bowl, Gator Bowl, something like that. Don’t think they’ll fall to Birmingham and don’t think they’ll go back to Memphis or Nashville again so soon.

[Dawg83]

Also can we talk about A&M getting to 7 losses quicker than Vandy? YIKES.

[MSTSatchmo]

I think, barring some upsets, the Ohio State/Michigan game is huge for Tennessee.  If it’s a close game, I’d say TD or less, I don’t think the loser falls far enough for Tennessee to get in considering their loss was a dominant UGA win.  A double digit loss for Ohio State or Michigan would put the loser below Tennessee.  

[MSTSatchmo]

1 hour ago, Dawg83 said:

Also can we talk about A&M getting to 7 losses quicker than Vandy? YIKES.

A&M has to be the biggest disappointment in years, based on the recruiting hype, trash talking, and preseason hype.   And that’s saying a lot because A&M is a disappointment on a regular basis.  

[s1nglewing]

23 minutes ago, MSTSatchmo said:

A&M has to be the biggest disappointment in years, based on the recruiting hype, trash talking, and preseason hype.   And that’s saying a lot because A&M is a disappointment on a regular basis.  

 

Maybe they can squeak out a win next week.

[Dawg83]

5 hours ago, MSTSatchmo said:

A&M has to be the biggest disappointment in years, based on the recruiting hype, trash talking, and preseason hype.   And that’s saying a lot because A&M is a disappointment on a regular basis.  

With LSU still to play, they are staring down 4-8. What a disaster given the money they are paying Jimbo.

 

6 hours ago, MSTSatchmo said:

I think, barring some upsets, the Ohio State/Michigan game is huge for Tennessee.  If it’s a close game, I’d say TD or less, I don’t think the loser falls far enough for Tennessee to get in considering their loss was a dominant UGA win.  A double digit loss for Ohio State or Michigan would put the loser below Tennessee.  

I dunno, it’s gonna be really hard to leave Tennessee out with wins against LSU and Bama. Who would the OSU/Michigan loser’s best win be? Penn State? Meh, doesn’t move the needle much for me. I feel like an 11-1 Tennessee should be in and has a good chance of doing so.

[rebmus]

1 hour ago, Dawg83 said:

With LSU still to play, they are staring down 4-8. What a disaster given the money they are paying Jimbo.

 

 

It's definitely a disaster given the money they are paying Jimbo. 

I'll add the NIL money to land the #1 recruiting class this past offseason while wondering how many of those transfer out this offseason? 

 

[MSTSatchmo]

8 minutes ago, rebmus said:

It's definitely a disaster given the money they are paying Jimbo. 

I'll add the NIL money to land the #1 recruiting class this past offseason while wondering how many of those transfer out this offseason? 

 

If there isn’t a coaching change, which most people don’t expect, teams will be picking that roster apart. 

[s1nglewing]

6 minutes ago, MSTSatchmo said:

If there isn’t a coaching change, which most people don’t expect, teams will be picking that roster apart. 

 

The repercussions of awarding this kind of contract to a football coach will impact the way coaches are hired and fired - there has to be some kind of escape clause for the colleges. A complete disaster for A&M in every imaginable way, and probably some ways that haven't been explored yet.

 

I do kind of get a dark joy from his failure this season, though. Met him at an AFCA convention and he and Bob Stoops top the list of (moderator edit) college coaches that I've ever had the displeasure of sharing oxygen with.

[Dawg83]

57 minutes ago, MSTSatchmo said:

If there isn’t a coaching change, which most people don’t expect, teams will be picking that roster apart. 

It may be hard to fire Jimbo right now but you have to think the AD that gave him this moronic contract is definitely in trouble. How that guy got that AD job will never make sense to me.

[pancho]

That AD has been referred to in those terms before............

[Bulldogs4]

Mississippi is at least ahead of the rest in this situation. State law prohibits contracts longer than four years. Which IMO is the perfect balance. It gives the coach a reasonable amount of security while protecting the college from a ridiculous pay out if they fire the coach. 
Giving a coach a 10 year contract is asinine. Beyond stupid. I realize in Saban’s case, I get it but there is no way he will still be coaching in 2030. A&M, Michigan State and others are beyond dumb. 

[MSTSatchmo]

10 hours ago, Dawg83 said:

It may be hard to fire Jimbo right now but you have to think the AD that gave him this moronic contract is definitely in trouble. How that guy got that AD job will never make sense to me.

I think Auburn will regret their AD hire eventually.  

[Dawg83]

6 minutes ago, MSTSatchmo said:

I think Auburn will regret their AD hire eventually.  

Yepppp.

[Bulldogs4]

Agree with Auburn hiring Cohen. Still a head scratcher for me. Though, I still admit to being blindsided as I did not know all the discontent with him amongst State people.

I have a cousin who lives in ATL and is a Bama fan who told me “he was shocked as he saw Cohen being interviewed on SEC Nation a few weeks ago and thought he was perfectly happy at State.” Goes to show you, you just never know. 

 

It is possible he will be decent there but I could see the same thing happening to him as what has happened to Stricklin at UF. The grass is not always greener on the other side except in your pocket book.