MAIS Reclassification Numbers

[Sharper]

What would the MAIS look like for the next two years (2025-27) based on the numbers (since the MHSAA is going through the same thing)?

[MSSportsGuy]

To my knowledge the MAIS has never released their classification numbers pubicly in the way MHSAA does. I'm not super familiar with the MAIS heirarchy outside of being in proximity to a few members in my home area and the kids of friends who attended schools and played for them.

 

If I am incorrect please point me in the direction of the last reclassification numbers as I'm curious how large some of them are. 

[s1nglewing]

You are correct.  MAIS doesn't publish enrollment numbers.  One can get an idea of enrollment by inputting search queries here: https://nces.ed.gov/surveys/pss/privateschoolsearch/

 

But it would take a lot of time to search all of the schools and the data is two-three years old.

[TheAnswer]

Rumor is they will be going to a classification similar to when they AAA-1 and AAA-2.

[Hasbeen]

Rumor is MAIS will go to a Super 16 or Super 20.  Counting boys and girls this go round for all sports.   Heard a couple of rumors about how playoffs would be handled. Does anybody have any insight?

[maroontide06]

16 minutes ago, Hasbeen said:

Rumor is MAIS will go to a Super 16 or Super 20.  Counting boys and girls this go round for all sports.   Heard a couple of rumors about how playoffs would be handled. Does anybody have any insight?

Maybe somebody with some MAIS expertise, but I don't have a clue who that could be.  Might wanna trace the rumors you heard back to the source and then you can inform us all.

[Rebel Bert]

My guess is 8 to 10 N/S, 8 schools advance to round 1 or 3 week playoffs counting championship decided before Thanksgiving.

[yellowtengo]

Super 20. The first round of the playoffs will be like travel ball pool play, which I am not familiar with at all. After the first round, some of the teams will then drop a class for the rest of the playoffs. Not sure how this works.

 

I believe there are 52 schools that play 11 man, may be wrong on the exact number. Don't know how they will split the other 32 teams, most likely 16 and 16. 

 

Also heard there were two teams thinking about going independent, PCS and Simpson, and one team in Louisiana considering joining the Louisiana athletic association, not sure which team but Oak Forest may be the one. I have not heard of a final decision on these three.

[Rebel Bert]

Getting weird sounds like. Sounds like the top 20 get an 11th or 12th game then seeded.

[Rebel Bert]

5 hours ago, yellowtengo said:

Super 20. The first round of the playoffs will be like travel ball pool play, which I am not familiar with at all. After the first round, some of the teams will then drop a class for the rest of the playoffs. Not sure how this works.

 

I believe there are 52 schools that play 11 man, may be wrong on the exact number. Don't know how they will split the other 32 teams, most likely 16 and 16. 

 

Also heard there were two teams thinking about going independent, PCS and Simpson, and one team in Louisiana considering joining the Louisiana athletic association, not sure which team but Oak Forest may be the one. I have not heard of a final decision on these three.

Pool play is where 4 schools play a round Robin then maybe 2 advance. My guess is 1 and 2 seeds from the north host 3 and 4 seeds from the south.  vice versa. And mean Parklane traveling to say Magnolia Heights and North Delta traveling to PCS or Oak Forest.  Otherwise I am clueless.

[yellowtengo]

Heard this morning that they are getting away from the pool play junk. They now are talking about doing 10-12 in 6A, 10-12 in 5A, and then splitting the others equally in 4A and 3A for eleven man teams. Heck, who knows with the ones running the show.

[Rebel Bert]

On 8/25/2024 at 3:11 PM, Rebel Bert said:

Pool play is where 4 schools play a round Robin then maybe 2 advance. My guess is 1 and 2 seeds from the north host 3 and 4 seeds from the south.  vice versa. And mean Parklane traveling to say Magnolia Heights and North Delta traveling to PCS or Oak Forest.  Otherwise I am clueless.

Pool play is the same as region play. Round 1 then reseed doesn't make since.

[Rebel Bert]

Any news on Simpson rumor of going independent.

[yellowtengo]

I have not heard exactly what Simpson decided to do. Right now they are 0-2 and have not scored a point. I know their quarterback is hurt but it looks as if they need to stay put. 

[s1nglewing]

30 minutes ago, yellowtengo said:

I have not heard exactly what Simpson decided to do. Right now they are 0-2 and have not scored a point. I know their quarterback is hurt but it looks as if they need to stay put. 

It would be a surprising move if they did so. Their entire history is predicated on separation from the public schools.

Getting the opportunity to play against teams with boys on girls teams wouldn't be something their patrons would approve of.

[Hash_Marks]

4 hours ago, s1nglewing said:

It would be a surprising move if they did so. Their entire history is predicated on separation from the public schools.

Getting the opportunity to play against teams with boys on girls teams wouldn't be something their patrons would approve of.

At which MHSAA school and sport has this occurred?  Do you have a link documenting this?  Otherwise, this is purely conjecture. 

[Rebel Bert]

51 minutes ago, Hash_Marks said:

At which MHSAA school and sport has this occurred?  Do you have a link documenting this?  Otherwise, this is purely conjecture. 

I can't think of one myself. Ok maybe  EA Sports, Band, Cheerleaders, Chorus which technically doesn't count. Oh Debate team maybe.

[Rebel Bert]

6 hours ago, s1nglewing said:

It would be a surprising move if they did so. Their entire history is predicated on separation from the public schools.

Getting the opportunity to play against teams with boys on girls teams wouldn't be something their patrons would approve of.

I don't think that's an issue in Mississippi.

[s1nglewing]

6 minutes ago, Rebel Bert said:

I don't think that's an issue in Mississippi.

Not yet

[Hash_Marks]

On 9/6/2024 at 2:32 PM, s1nglewing said:

Not yet

What makes you think this would only occur at MHSAA schools?  I see no reason the same couldn't possibly happen at an MAIS school the same. 

[Sharper]

With Presbyterian Christian leaving for the MHSAA starting in the 2025-26 school year, I forsee two possibilities with the MAIS classification numbers.

 

A) Keep the same structure as is (maybe using Oak Forest to replace PCS in MAIS 6A in all sports) 

 

or 

B) maybe converting everything to 5 classifications instead of 6. 

 

Maybe something that would go like this

 

non-football sports

MAIS 5A (top 8 schools) 

MAIS 4A (next 24 schools)

MAIS 3A (next 24 schools)

MAIS 2A (top 1/2 of remaining schools)

MAIS 1A (bottom 1/2 of remaining schools)

(of course, it would be combined for volleyball and soccer because not enough schools sponsor said sports)

 

football

MAIS 5A (top 8 schools)

MAIS 4A (top 1/2 of remaining 11-man schools)

MAIS 3A (bottom 1/2 of remaining 11-man schools)

MAIS 2A (top 1/2 of 8-man schools)
MAIS 1A (bottom 1/2 of 8-man schools)

 

[Pull-A-Roy]

If they go to  super 16 in MAIS it will kill some of the traditional powers in the lower classes. 

[s1nglewing]

1 hour ago, Pull-A-Roy said:

If they go to  super 16 in MAIS it will kill some of the traditional powers in the lower classes. 

Super 16 is a tremendously bad idea

[yellowtengo]

Kinda like Sharper said - do like it use to be - the Super 8, Big 4 and Little 4, where they play the other 7 during the season; Split them for playoffs with a state champ for the Big 4 and the Little 4. Then they can divide the other school into three equal divisions.

[Washed_Up_Athlete]

None of this solves the fundamental problem - the separation between the 4 Jackson schools and everyone else. The reality is that Hartfield, Prep, MRA, and JA have substantially greater assets and are consistently so much better than every other MAIS school. No matter if its 16, 8, or some other configuration, the Jackson schools are still going to dominate. 

 

This is really just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. The solution is obvious. The 4 Jackson schools need to abandon ship for the MHSAA.