MHSAA and MAIS

[Rebel Bert]

17 minutes ago, coastfootballfanman said:

The big argument is there is no need for 7 classes with less teams. You would add roughly 50 more teams to MHSAA if MAIS merged which would add roughly 7 more teams per classification. So you would be back to more traditional 32 or so teams in 5A-7A instead of 24. So I think there is a better argument for staying 7 classes considering that point. 

You may have already done the math i don't know. You have to consider all MAIS schools since some don't play football as well.

[coastfootballfanman]

3 minutes ago, Rebel Bert said:

Will the multiplier go away?

I would say you have to keep it if your instituting it for all MSHAA private schools. 

[Vott]

4 minutes ago, Rebel Bert said:

I believe the Jackson fields are artificial turf now. Getting there and getting out safely from the bad streets and gangs. Actually I have no clue about NW Jackson fields. Provine is artificial turf and you drive straight in from hwy 80 and out.

North Jackson is not turf.

[coastfootballfanman]

Just now, Rebel Bert said:

You may have already done the math i don't know. You have to consider all MAIS schools since some don't play football as well.

I have not. I was mainly speaking to football, but you are right. It would be different numbers overall. 

[Rebel Bert]

Just now, Vott said:

North Jackson is not turf.

I didn't think so because I remember video of the lines being drawn. They were not straight at all.

[Rebel Bert]

1 minute ago, coastfootballfanman said:

I have not. I was mainly speaking to football, but you are right. It would be different numbers overall. 

Then I question all MAIS especially Louisiana schools staying around. Its obvious they could be paired up with the SW Ms schools in Region play.

[coastfootballfanman]

2 minutes ago, Rebel Bert said:

Then I question all MAIS especially Louisiana schools staying around. Its obvious they could be paired up with the SW Ms schools in Region play.

From the start of these rumors, I felt the same way. I do not really see what they specifically would benefit from in moving to MHSAA. Would they get more money from gates, etc.? I also do not see the MHSAA letting MRA, Prep, etc. compete in 3A with numbers and talent pool good enough to compete and win higher classifications. 

[Former Coach]

23 hours ago, Bulldog2205 said:

I am hearing they are merging before the count this fall.  

You may be right, but I find that hard to believe. To begin with MHSAA schools aren't going to want a merger without a multiplier for the private schools. And I'm sure that's just one of many sticking points between the two that will be an issue.

[Rebel Bert]

I think this may have started out with a question of why did you take PCS. It turned into a split down discussion.  Then the Florida Alabama Georgia thing comes up. Now we have to discuss keeping private schools south of Hattiesburg in our associations. Maybe it turned into a merger maybe a scheduling agreement which I can see happening. Maybe the multiplier goes away in a complete merger maybe it is negotiated down. If and whatever the outcome a merger is going to be interesting in the classes: 7 or 8, # per region, 8 man, etc. Then the scheduling next year. Lots of discussion.  If your Tri County and your in a region with Mize don't be scared to come on down to Sullivan's Hollow on the hill. If your Starkville Academy and your 5A at Provine come on down or let's have a neutral game at East Central or somewhere. A merger has to all in or else. It will take some getting use to.

[Vott]

47 minutes ago, Rebel Bert said:

I think this may have started out with a question of why did you take PCS. It turned into a split down discussion.  Then the Florida Alabama Georgia thing comes up. Now we have to discuss keeping private schools south of Hattiesburg in our associations. Maybe it turned into a merger maybe a scheduling agreement which I can see happening. Maybe the multiplier goes away in a complete merger maybe it is negotiated down. If and whatever the outcome a merger is going to be interesting in the classes: 7 or 8, # per region, 8 man, etc. Then the scheduling next year. Lots of discussion.  If your Tri County and your in a region with Mize don't be scared to come on down to Sullivan's Hollow on the hill. If your Starkville Academy and your 5A at Provine come on down or let's have a neutral game at East Central or somewhere. A merger has to all in or else. It will take some getting use to.

Why would you want to lose a home game and play at a neutral site? You play at a neutral site then after you pay the cost to rent the field and pay their people who provide security among other things, you end up losing money

[Rebel Bert]

48 minutes ago, Vott said:

Why would you want to lose a home game and play at a neutral site? You play at a neutral site then after you pay the cost to rent the field and pay their people who provide security among other things, you end up losing money

Probably will never be neutral site games. But there are some current 4A schools probably moving to 5A under 8 classes playing some Jackson schools.

[Vott]

31 minutes ago, Rebel Bert said:

Probably will never be neutral site games. But there are some current 4A schools probably moving to 5A under 8 classes playing some Jackson schools.

What does playing Jackson schools have to do with playing at a neutral site? 

[Rebel Bert]

1 hour ago, Vott said:

What does playing Jackson schools have to do with playing at a neutral site? 

Nothing really I am just saying you have to put yourself in some people's cleats to understand they might not be ready to play at Provine or Forest Hill  due to the happenings of the last 35 years of crime. They can't even protect cars at JSU game. But when Hartfield, Prep, or MRA get put in Eegion 2 5A expect to play some of the current metro area MHSAA schools. One of the reasons some will bulk on a complete merger. 

[Vott]

7 minutes ago, Rebel Bert said:

Nothing really I am just saying you have to put yourself in some people's cleats to understand they might not be ready to play at Provine or Forest Hill  due to the happenings of the last 35 years of crime. They can't even protect cars at JSU game. But when Hartfield, Prep, or MRA get put in Eegion 2 5A expect to play some of the current metro area MHSAA schools. One of the reasons some will bulk on a complete merger. 

I dont think fans of whatever team they support are hesitant of coming to watch in game in the metro area of Jackson. I know I am not. 

[Rebel Bert]

13 minutes ago, Vott said:

I dont think fans of whatever team they support are hesitant of coming to watch in game in the metro area of Jackson. I know I am not. 

Time will tell.

[MSSportsGuy]

There will be no merger, at least for now. Anything is possible of course, but the dynamics of the organizations and member schools does not lend itself to a clean merger involving all members.

 

 

[Chunky6617]

35 minutes ago, Vott said:

I dont think fans of whatever team they support are hesitant of coming to watch in game in the metro area of Jackson. I know I am not. 

Nobody will want to go watch a game in Jackson. They will do it, but they won’t want to do it.