New Head at PCS

[choctawman]

Bobby Carr is the new head coach at PCS. He comes from Alabama. He won 10 State titles at three different schools in the AISA. He won 7 at Edgewood Academy, 2 at Autauga Academy, and one at New Life Christian. His last 4 seasons at Edgewood his teams were 72-0, still a state record. Last year his Autauga team was 13-0, won the state championship, and was ranked the #1 team in the AISA. His team was in the 2 A classification. AISA has 3 classifications.

[s1nglewing]

THAT is a homerun hire.

 

His teams won 3 Championships at Autauga, 7 at Edgewood (his last five seasons there they went undefeated), and 3 at New Life Christian (8-man)

[choctawman]

I went back and researched it on The History of Alabama football. He was at New Life Christian for 5 years and coached 8 man. He won 3 titles there. He was at Edgewood for 15 years and played in 10 and won 7. He was at Autauga 5 and played in 4 winning 3. Very impressive.

Edited May 18, 2022 by choctawman

[TigersFan]

That didn't take long! Sounds like a big hire for them, but has will they be ready for the Preps and other schools in their division?

[s1nglewing]

If Carr is the man the local public schools better know what's coming. 

[RMcCormick66]

45 minutes ago, s1nglewing said:

If Carr is the man the local public schools better know what's coming. 

What you mean

[FBdude]

Big time recruiter. Large MAIS about to start coming after kids harder and harder. 

[coastfootballfanman]

20 minutes ago, FBdude said:

Big time recruiter. Large MAIS about to start coming after kids harder and harder. 

Yep! Hattiesburg, Petal, Oak Grove, Summrall, etc. need to keep close watch on their kids. 

[RMcCormick66]

I didn't think PCS gave athletic scholarships. Thought that is why they are so bad. 

[coastfootballfanman]

1 minute ago, RMcCormick66 said:

I didn't think PCS gave athletic scholarships. Thought that is why they are so bad. 

Most private schools do not technically give athletic scholarships, but there are boosters, alum, parents, etc. that will pay for athletes to go there. 

[Washed_Up_Athlete]

3 minutes ago, RMcCormick66 said:

I didn't think PCS gave athletic scholarships. Thought that is why they are so bad. 

No MAIS schools are allowed to give athletic scholarships. They cannot provide financial aid based solely on athletic ability. They can, however, provide financial aid for demonstrated financial need. What happens is that a family applies for financial aid from the school and receives some portion of reduced tuition. That difference gets paid for by a third-party. Having a third-party pay the tuition for athletic reasons is also against MAIS rules, but the rule is unenforced. Numerous people can tell you who is paying the way for kids at MRA, Hartfield, St. Joe, and Greenville Christian. It's no secret.

 

But, the MAIS is headed by Stone Blanton's dad. Stone Blanton's mom works at MRA. MRA is one of the biggest - if not the biggest - offenders. And the biggest punishment (if not one of the only punishments) ever applied by the MAIS for illegal sponsoring of athletes was against MRA. Of course, the MAIS had a different head at the time. 

 

Additionally, while on the topic of MRA, the school encourages its athletic boys to hold-back a grade. This year's 8th grade is holding-back 18 boys. Stone Blanton will be nearly 20 YEARS OLD when he graduates high school. These kids will follow that model. 

 

As for PCS, many have long thought it's a sleeping giant. Just as MRA is geographically positioned well (surrounded by Ridgeland, Madison Central, Germantown, NW Rankin, and NE Jackson), PCS is also positioned well. If the new coach gets to work on increasing its talent pool, and if he finally starts running a modern offense, PCS could become a legitimate force in MAIS 6A.

 

 

[Vott]

42 minutes ago, coastfootballfanman said:

Yep! Hattiesburg, Petal, Oak Grove, Summrall, etc. need to keep close watch on their kids. 

Not drinking the kool aid on that. No way if you are a big time player at HHS, Petal, or OG are you leaving to go to PCS. Purvis or Sumrall maybe but not a 5a or 6a school. 

[JACKTOWN91]

Yea I don't really see what a kid would stand to gain by leaving OG or Petal to go to PCS. They both have way better facilities and are good schools. 

[JACKTOWN91]

I don't know much about Purvis and Summerall tho.

[JACKTOWN91]

24 minutes ago, Washed_Up_Athlete said:

No MAIS schools are allowed to give athletic scholarships. They cannot provide financial aid based solely on athletic ability. They can, however, provide financial aid for demonstrated financial need. What happens is that a family applies for financial aid from the school and receives some portion of reduced tuition. That difference gets paid for by a third-party. Having a third-party pay the tuition for athletic reasons is also against MAIS rules, but the rule is unenforced. Numerous people can tell you who is paying the way for kids at MRA, Hartfield, St. Joe, and Greenville Christian. It's no secret.

 

But, the MAIS is headed by Stone Blanton's dad. Stone Blanton's mom works at MRA. MRA is one of the biggest - if not the biggest - offenders. And the biggest punishment (if not one of the only punishments) ever applied by the MAIS for illegal sponsoring of athletes was against MRA. Of course, the MAIS had a different head at the time. 

 

Additionally, while on the topic of MRA, the school encourages its athletic boys to hold-back a grade. This year's 8th grade is holding-back 18 boys. Stone Blanton will be nearly 20 YEARS OLD when he graduates high school. These kids will follow that model. 

 

As for PCS, many have long thought it's a sleeping giant. Just as MRA is geographically positioned well (surrounded by Ridgeland, Madison Central, Germantown, NW Rankin, and NE Jackson), PCS is also positioned well. If the new coach gets to work on increasing its talent pool, and if he finally starts running a modern offense, PCS could become a legitimate force in MAIS 6A.

 

 

Dang I thought the rule was that you can't be 19 when the school year begins.

[Washed_Up_Athlete]

12 minutes ago, JACKTOWN91 said:

Yea I don't really see what a kid would stand to gain by leaving OG or Petal to go to PCS. They both have way better facilities and are good schools. 

You could say the same thing about Madison Central, Ridgeland, and Germantown versus MRA. MRA has very good facilities, but they're not remarkably better than these large public schools. Certainly NW Rankin's facilities are better than Hartfield's facilities. Top quality kids will come to PCS if the athletics improve, the academics are equal or better than the public schools, and if they can star at PCS. Look no further than the Jackson schools. History bears this out.

[Washed_Up_Athlete]

17 minutes ago, JACKTOWN91 said:

Dang I thought the rule was that you can't be 19 when the school year begins.

This is the date of birth rule: "A student athlete shall not have reached his/her 19th birthday before August 1 in the school year in which he/she wishes to participate. For the 2019-20 school year, this means anyone born before August 1, 2000, would be ineligible."

 

Blanton turned 19 within a few weeks of August 1. This made him about a year and half older than most of the kids he competed against. When he graduates this month, he'll be three months or so away from turning 20 years old. If MRA keeps up its current practice, more-and-more kids will be in a similar situation.

[RUNNINGMAN67]

and the MAIS just turns a blind eye to it?

[FBdude]

18 minutes ago, RUNNINGMAN67 said:

and the MAIS just turns a blind eye to it?

Why would they care? As long as some one is paying tuition they don’t ask no questions. Heck they say GCS has kids living in the school building/church.

[s1nglewing]

Edgewood had a cumulative 18 wins in the decade prior to Carr's hire. In his first TWO seasons there they won 20. Nah - no recruiting took place, right?

When Carr left Edgewood, all but four players went with him to Autauga & Edgewood went 0-11 & ended that 71 game winning streak.

[RUNNINGMAN67]

24 minutes ago, FBdude said:

Why would they care? As long as some one is paying tuition they don’t ask no questions. Heck they say GCS has kids living in the school building/church.

I was referring to the overaged high school athlete

[s1nglewing]

Some MAIS schools have had a culture that supports parents holding back 6th graders since the association began - and it is a parental decision, not a school-enforced nor even suggested kind of thing.

[Washed_Up_Athlete]

7 minutes ago, s1nglewing said:

Some MAIS schools have had a culture that supports parents holding back 6th graders since the association began - and it is a parental decision, not a school-enforced nor even suggested kind of thing.

Context matters. Some boys are probably too young for their grade and would benefit socially, academically, and athletically from holding back. A strong case can be made in favor of a young man being 18 years old for most of his senior year. It is true that parents hold kids back at many schools for these legitimate reasons. 

 

This, however, is not what is occurring at MRA. 18 boys in the 8th grade are holding back this year. The MRA athletic department is not only encouraging this - it's part of the school's competitive strategy. Heck, there are a few families who are refusing to hold their kids back and leaving the school this year because of the unfair advantage created by having 19 year olds competing against 18 year olds. 

[FBdude]

42 minutes ago, RUNNINGMAN67 said:

I was referring to the overaged high school athlete

Rule is as long as a kid isn’t 19 before Aug 1st. I believe that’s the MHSAA rule as well.

[RUNNINGMAN67]

Oh so he didn't break a rule