2023-24 Reclassification will only count 9-11 grades

[Rebel Bert]

4A

30. Houston 403

31. Quitman 390

32. Greene County 388

33. St Stanislaus  385

34. Forest  383

35. South Pike 38

36. Ripley 379

37. Byhalia 379

38. Senatobia 377

39. Amory 374

40. Morton 373

3A

1 Moss Point 366

2 Rosa Fort 366

3 Hu9 mphreys County 364

4 Yazoo County 361

5 Cr9ystal Springs 361

6 Columbia 359

7 Seminary 358

8 Mooreville 348

9 Noxubee County 340

0 Hazlehurst 337

1 Franklin County 326

2 Magee 324

3 JDC 322

4 Kossuth 315

5 North Panola 312

6 Alcorn Central 309

7 West Marion 304

8 Amanda Elzy 300

9 SE Lauderdale 296

0 Booneville 295

1 Tylertown 276

2 Port Gipson 275

3 Nettleton 275

4 Holly Springs 275

5 Aberdeen 274

6 McLaurin 274

7 Winona 270

8 Coahoma County 270

9 Mantachie 263

0 Kemper County 258

1 Perry Central 257

2 Choctaw County 256

3 Thomas E Edwards 253

4 Independence 251

5 OLA 248

6 Wilkinson County 246

7 Wesson 243

8 Jefferson County 243

9 Hatley 242

0 Water Valley 238

2A

1 Bruce 237

2 East Webster 233

3 Raleigh 231

4 Charleston 227

5 St Andrew's 227

6 Collins 226

7 O' Bannon 225

8 Enterprise Clarke 222

9 Pisgah 222

0 Union 219

1 Amite County 219

2 Clarkdale 218

3 Belmont 217

4 St Patrick 216

5 Eupora 214

6 JZ George 211

7 East Union 205

8 Scott Central 204

9 MS Palmer 204

0 Riverside 197

1 Heidelberg 197

2 North Forrest 194

3 Mize 193

4 Northside 190

5 Loyd Star 189

6 Philadelphia 188

7 Bogue Chitto 186

8 Leflore County 185

9 Pelahatchie 183

0 Puckett 181

1 Newton 179

2 Lake 175

3 New Site 172

4 Pine Grove 172

5 Calhoun City 170

6 Sebastopol 169

7 Enterprise Lincoln 168

8 Bay Springs 167

9 Velma Jackson 166

0 West Lincoln 166

1A

1 East Marion 164

2 Baldwyn 161

3 Hamilton 161

4 Potts Camp 160

5 Strayhorn 159

6 Sacred Heart 159

7 Myrtle 158

8 Richton 155

9 Walnut 152

    Taylorsville 149

    Nanih Waiya 138

    Lumberton 138

    Stringer 136

    Salem 113

    Mt Olive 89

I am a small school person. I decided to go back and check some of this with the 8th-10 grades. If Maripn Consolidates this fall they go 4A. Morton drops back and takes West Marion slot. 1A will be dropped to 51. One of the following drops to South 3A: Yazoo County, Choctaw County, or Noxubee County. 2A will have 5 regions in the south with one region going north depending on who those 5 will be. I think it could be the 2 Madison County Schools and 3 Rankin County Schools or 1 Rankin and 2 Scitt County Schools.

 

 

[s1nglewing]

4 hours ago, Rebel Bert said:

4A

30. Houston 403

31. Quitman 390

32. Greene County 388

33. St Stanislaus  385

34. Forest  383

35. South Pike 38

36. Ripley 379

37. Byhalia 379

38. Senatobia 377

39. Amory 374

40. Morton 373

3A

1 Moss Point 366

2 Rosa Fort 366

3 Hu9 mphreys County 364

4 Yazoo County 361

5 Cr9ystal Springs 361

6 Columbia 359

7 Seminary 358

8 Mooreville 348

9 Noxubee County 340

0 Hazlehurst 337

1 Franklin County 326

2 Magee 324

3 JDC 322

4 Kossuth 315

5 North Panola 312

6 Alcorn Central 309

7 West Marion 304

8 Amanda Elzy 300

9 SE Lauderdale 296

0 Booneville 295

1 Tylertown 276

2 Port Gipson 275

3 Nettleton 275

4 Holly Springs 275

5 Aberdeen 274

6 McLaurin 274

7 Winona 270

8 Coahoma County 270

9 Mantachie 263

0 Kemper County 258

1 Perry Central 257

2 Choctaw County 256

3 Thomas E Edwards 253

4 Independence 251

5 OLA 248

6 Wilkinson County 246

7 Wesson 243

8 Jefferson County 243

9 Hatley 242

0 Water Valley 238

2A

1 Bruce 237

2 East Webster 233

3 Raleigh 231

4 Charleston 227

5 St Andrew's 227

6 Collins 226

7 O' Bannon 225

8 Enterprise Clarke 222

9 Pisgah 222

0 Union 219

1 Amite County 219

2 Clarkdale 218

3 Belmont 217

4 St Patrick 216

5 Eupora 214

6 JZ George 211

7 East Union 205

8 Scott Central 204

9 MS Palmer 204

0 Riverside 197

1 Heidelberg 197

2 North Forrest 194

3 Mize 193

4 Northside 190

5 Loyd Star 189

6 Philadelphia 188

7 Bogue Chitto 186

8 Leflore County 185

9 Pelahatchie 183

0 Puckett 181

1 Newton 179

2 Lake 175

3 New Site 172

4 Pine Grove 172

5 Calhoun City 170

6 Sebastopol 169

7 Enterprise Lincoln 168

8 Bay Springs 167

9 Velma Jackson 166

0 West Lincoln 166

1A

1 East Marion 164

2 Baldwyn 161

3 Hamilton 161

4 Potts Camp 160

5 Strayhorn 159

6 Sacred Heart 159

7 Myrtle 158

8 Richton 155

9 Walnut 152

    Taylorsville 149

    Nanih Waiya 138

    Lumberton 138

    Stringer 136

    Salem 113

    Mt Olive 89

I am a small school person. I decided to go back and check some of this with the 8th-10 grades. If Maripn Consolidates this fall they go 4A. Morton drops back and takes West Marion slot. 1A will be dropped to 51. One of the following drops to South 3A: Yazoo County, Choctaw County, or Noxubee County. 2A will have 5 regions in the south with one region going north depending on who those 5 will be. I think it could be the 2 Madison County Schools and 3 Rankin County Schools or 1 Rankin and 2 Scitt County Schools.

 

 

At least 6 non-football or independent schools in your listing which makes it just nonsensical, especially by including Our Lady Academy.

[Rebel Bert]

4 hours ago, s1nglewing said:

At least 6 non-football or independent schools in your listing which makes it just nonsensical, especially by including Our Lady Academy.

OLA has to be included. I did not include MSMS because they are 11-12 grades only. I don't know if they will count their 11th grade next year and if they will be 1A. The nonfootbsll schools including 13 in 1A have to be classified. St Andrew's, Sacred Heart, St Patrick have to be classified even if they stay independent for 23-24 and 24-25 school years for other sports. There will be in a region with 4 football playing schools and those 4 schools will be going to playoffs even if 0-10.

[s1nglewing]

1 hour ago, Rebel Bert said:

OLA has to be included. I did not include MSMS because they are 11-12 grades only. I don't know if they will count their 11th grade next year and if they will be 1A. The nonfootbsll schools including 13 in 1A have to be classified. St Andrew's, Sacred Heart, St Patrick have to be classified even if they stay independent for 23-24 and 24-25 school years for other sports. There will be in a region with 4 football playing schools and those 4 schools will be going to playoffs even if 0-10.

We're talking about MHSAA football, right? Why include OLA in your numbers? Or independent football programs... I appreciate the thought you put into it, but by including schools that don't participate it makes your assertions irrelevant. This is a MHSAA football thread, after all.

[Rebel Bert]

17 minutes ago, s1nglewing said:

We're talking about MHSAA football, right? Why include OLA in your numbers? Or independent football programs... I appreciate the thought you put into it, but by including schools that don't participate it makes your assertions irrelevant. This is a MHSAA football thread, after all.

 

[s1nglewing]

That's nice.

MHSAA football related classification? No.

Just a bunch of numbers and conjecture, and that's cool. I'd just clarify that it is what it is.

[Rebel Bert]

1 hour ago, s1nglewing said:

That's nice.

MHSAA football related classification? No.

Just a bunch of numbers and conjecture, and that's cool. I'd just clarify that it is what it is.

That's  the classifications presented to the committee in February starting with 7A on the back of the front page floating around. Those are the October 2021 numbers used in the discussion. The committee has since passed a proposal to only count 9th-11th grades. These numbers are now obsolete. I posted them to prove to you that they count all schools performing in at least 1 sport.

 

 

[coastfootballfanman]

So it’s confirmed they are only taking numbers from grades 9-11 this year?? What did 7 and 6A look like?

[Rebel Bert]

2 hours ago, coastfootballfanman said:

So it’s confirmed they are only taking numbers from grades 9-11 this year?? What did 7 and 6A look like?

I have not looked. Jackson schools will be hard to say with feeder middle schools

[coastfootballfanman]

10 hours ago, Rebel Bert said:

 

Are there any pics of the 7A and 6A?

[TigersFan]

The dropping of a grade will not make that big of a deal! if you have 1000 kids in school that means about 250 a grade. So if you count if cut off is 800 to 1200 now for lets say 5A and under new count it will be 600 to 900 and you still turn in 750 you are going to be 5A will it help some school on the bubble one way or another maybe but also may hurt small schools who maybe have an average of 50 kids in a grade but have one class has 62 in it and that may bump them up. What if that is a Jr. class that is not there the second year of competition and now they are playing 2A ball with 1A numbers that second year. I understand not counting kids that are not going to be there the next year after the count is done but I do believe it gives you a more true representation of how many kids are in a school on average. 

[coachfball87]

Simpson County and Possibly Marion County (Rumor) might be consolidating by then. Simpson would be 6A. 

[Rebel Bert]

1 hour ago, coachfball87 said:

Simpson County and Possibly Marion County (Rumor) might be consolidating by then. Simpson would be 6A. 

Simpson will be 5A with the 9th-11th count.

Marion will be 4A with 9th-11th count.

[Rebel Bert]

1 hour ago, TigersFan said:

The dropping of a grade will not make that big of a deal! if you have 1000 kids in school that means about 250 a grade. So if you count if cut off is 800 to 1200 now for lets say 5A and under new count it will be 600 to 900 and you still turn in 750 you are going to be 5A will it help some school on the bubble one way or another maybe but also may hurt small schools who maybe have an average of 50 kids in a grade but have one class has 62 in it and that may bump them up. What if that is a Jr. class that is not there the second year of competition and now they are playing 2A ball with 1A numbers that second year. I understand not counting kids that are not going to be there the next year after the count is done but I do believe it gives you a more true representation of how many kids are in a school on average. 

If your top 10 bottom 10 you will be on the bubble of going up or down.

[Rebel Bert]

1 hour ago, coastfootballfanman said:

Are there any pics of the 7A and 6A?

 

[Chunky6617]

I’m not sure where these numbers came from but I don’t think they are correct. I know Mize has more than 50 students in every single grade. I think we average between 55-60. We would have higher than 193. 

[Rebel Bert]

1 hour ago, Chunky6617 said:

I’m not sure where these numbers came from but I don’t think they are correct. I know Mize has more than 50 students in every single grade. I think we average between 55-60. We would have higher than 193. 

The came from MDE Smith County  School District 8th-10th grade which indicates next year's 9th-11th grade and are accurate as of October 2021.

[Rebel Bert]

1 hour ago, Chunky6617 said:

I’m not sure where these numbers came from but I don’t think they are correct. I know Mize has more than 50 students in every single grade. I think we average between 55-60. We would have higher than 193. 

The first numbers above are 8th-10th grades be clear not these sheets 7A-1A.

[coachfball87]

4 hours ago, Rebel Bert said:

Simpson will be 5A with the 9th-11th count.

Marion will be 4A with 9th-11th count.

With combine Mendenhall and Magee # it’s 970. That’s 6A

[Rebel Bert]

16 minutes ago, coachfball87 said:

With combine Mendenhall and Magee # it’s 970. That’s 6A

No their combined 8th-19th 2021 numbers put them at 5A which will be the combined 9th-11th October 2022. I did not post Mendenhall numbers.

[Chunky6617]

4 hours ago, Rebel Bert said:

The came from MDE Smith County  School District 8th-10th grade which indicates next year's 9th-11th grade and are accurate as of October 2021.

Gotcha. For some reason I was thinking grades 9-12. 

[coachfball87]

1 hour ago, Rebel Bert said:

No their combined 8th-19th 2021 numbers put them at 5A which will be the combined 9th-11th October 2022. I did not post Mendenhall numbers.

Yeah. On the list you sent out you did…

[Rebel Bert]

21 minutes ago, coachfball87 said:

Yeah. On the list you sent out you did…

At the top of this article is the last 10 4A, 3A, 2A, top 10 or so of 1A. I had Mendenhall number but I didn't list it. Under 8-10 combined with Magee is 5A.

[Rebel Bert]

4 hours ago, coachfball87 said:

Yeah. On the list you sent out you did…

Mendenhall had 457 8th-10th grades

[Rebel Bert]

4 hours ago, Chunky6617 said:

Gotcha. For some reason I was thinking grades 9-12. 

Mize reported:

7th. 84

8th  65

9th. 72

10th  56

11th. 58

12th. 59