CFB Offseason Thread

[NoWammies]

Tonight is a big reason why you can’t look too deep into recruiting now a days. In June, 4 star WR Dillon Alfred decommitted and today recommitted putting Ole Miss now at the #31 class. This past weekend Corey Amos who also decommitted in June recommitted as well. 

[MSUBulldog]

On 8/1/2024 at 2:07 PM, NoWammies said:

So you look past reckless driving some which were DUI’s even though you’ve already had two deaths from it? Again, it’s 24!! Not 2-4 arrests. 

I haven't personally looked past anything in regard to reckless driving and have a spotless driving record personally. I would imagine the true reason for not kicking every player off the team who has a reckless driving offense is likely two-fold. Firstly, reckless driving isn't typically an offense that gets you kicked off a college football team. Reckless driving might get you reprimanded but typically not booted. Just because 23 other student-athletes had reckless driving offenses before the 24th guy, doesn't render the 24th guy with a reckless driving charge individually as representing someone who should necessarily be kicked off the team. There's also the notion that kicking 24 players off of your roster might leave a sizable gap to fill even for UGA. 

Edited August 5, 2024 by MSUBulldog

[NoWammies]

There’s also a notion that if you don’t hand down any type of punishment for a wrongdoing then that wrongdoing will continue. 

[pancho]

NIL will only make these issues more common.

[NoWammies]

49 minutes ago, pancho said:

NIL will only make these issues more common.

To get off topic but kinda stay on topic with your NIL thing, yesterday here in Oxford at Rebel Rags there was an autograph signing with Jaxson, Tre, Juice and Walter. You had to get tickets prior and pay for what you wanted signed or to have picture taken. The days of Meet the Rebels or just getting an autograph unsolicited are long gone because of the NIL.

[pancho]

umph

[maroontide06]

If it's professional, then why do we still have the terminology "student-athletes" ?  If you're a paid employee so to speak, then what's the point of the academic side of it?

[Insideradvantage]

21 hours ago, maroontide06 said:

If it's professional, then why do we still have the terminology "student-athletes" ?  If you're a paid employee so to speak, then what's the point of the academic side of it?

Probably because, whether they want to think it or not, about 99 percent of them better get an education while they can because they ain't making money in the NFL. 

[Dawg83]

Don’t look now but we are two weeks away from Week Zero (main draw is Florida State vs Georgia Tech in Ireland) and only three weeks away from everybody kicking off.

[Dawg83]

One thing I’m hopefully looking forward to this year is State having both a talented TE and a coach willing to use him. Everything I’ve seen and heard on Seydou Traore is exciting. He passes the eye test for sure. Was a big time player for Arkansas State in 2022, had to sit out last year thanks to the old and now defunct transfer rules.

Edited August 12, 2024 by Dawg83

[maroontide06]

10 hours ago, Dawg83 said:

One thing I’m hopefully looking forward to this year is State having both a talented TE and a coach willing to use him. Everything I’ve seen and heard on Seydou Traore is exciting. He passes the eye test for sure. Was a big time player for Arkansas State in 2022, had to sit out last year thanks to the old and now defunct transfer rules.

Now we just need a big, bruising Fullback and that'd be aight in my book.  I just hope Lebby isn't afraid to go under center or line up in an I or Offset I formation.  I wanna see some old school smash mouth football LOL. 

[Dawg83]

14 minutes ago, maroontide06 said:

Now we just need a big, bruising Fullback and that'd be aight in my book.  I just hope Lebby isn't afraid to go under center or line up in an I or Offset I formation.  I wanna see some old school smash mouth football LOL. 

Um I think you’re probably gonna be disappointed on that one lol. He’s gonna run the ball but it won’t look or feel old school probably.

 

RB is another position I’m intrigued by though. I think Booth and Daniels will end up being nice additions. Hate that Seth Davis is probably out for the year due to the bad knee injury he suffered in the Egg Bowl. At full strength I think he would thrive in this offense.

[maroontide06]

6 minutes ago, Dawg83 said:

Um I think you’re probably gonna be disappointed on that one lol. He’s gonna run the ball but it won’t look or feel old school probably.

Yes I'm aware of that.  I just get the vibe that Lebby want to come across as old school and blue collar, which is perfectly ok with me.  I just want him to run some old school offense to match his old school vibes.  That's easier said than done though.

[MSUBulldog]

On 8/6/2024 at 11:52 AM, NoWammies said:

There’s also a notion that if you don’t hand down any type of punishment for a wrongdoing then that wrongdoing will continue. 

The University of Georgia has dismissed senior defensive back David Daniel-Sisavanh from the football team following a February reckless driving incident in which he evaded police in Atlanta. You mentioned in an earlier post than none of the players charged or convicted on charges of reckless driving have been dismissed from the team but they have and David Daniel-Sisavanh is one of them respectively. 

Edited August 12, 2024 by MSUBulldog

[MSUBulldog]

5 hours ago, maroontide06 said:

Yes I'm aware of that.  I just get the vibe that Lebby want to come across as old school and blue collar, which is perfectly ok with me.  I just want him to run some old school offense to match his old school vibes.  That's easier said than done though.

I don't sense the same old school vibes from Lebby. I sense someone who at the power-5 level has proven to connect with high school players on the recruiting trail at only age 39 and who has proven effective in the era of the portal of coming in day one and plugging holes for Miss St. I look for Lebby to run fast-paced offenses and to eventually see the same level of scoring effectiveness we saw under both Mullen and Leach. Lebby is considered among upper college level OC's until taking the job in Starkville and I personally get the opposite of an old school vibe from him. I don't believe him to be overly reserved and is well spoken and very much in tune with what appeals to high school recruits and deeply understands modern NIL, portal and PR at the highest levels of college football. Lebby may be old school. I don't know but power-5 success, cutting edge, NIL and Portal conscious, relevant, relatable, fresh, bit of a recruiter and a college football player himself at Oklahoma is what comes to mind over old school when I think of Lebby.

Edited August 12, 2024 by MSUBulldog

[pancho]

I think Lebby has the "IT" that is needed to compete in today's game. I'll be interested to see if that "IT" can lead to more than 4 or 5 wins this season.

[s1nglewing]

35 minutes ago, pancho said:

I think Lebby has the "IT" that is needed to compete in today's game. I'll be interested to see if that "IT" can lead to more than 4 or 5 wins this season.

Doubtful, but we'll see...

[maroontide06]

8 minutes ago, s1nglewing said:

Doubtful, but we'll see...

If you go on YouTube and look up 1940 Mississippi State vs. Alabama, it was played at Old Denny Stadium.  Mississippi State was running the Singlewing and Alabama was running the Notre Dame Box.  You would think that the further football gets away from these old style offenses, the more you would see modern day coaches willing to adapt some of them.  With those old style offenses being so different than what is run today, it would provide a different look and challenge for opposing teams.  To be different and to do something different, you don't have to reinvent the wheel so to speak.  Just do something that hasn't been done in a long time.

[s1nglewing]

6 minutes ago, maroontide06 said:

If you go on YouTube and look up 1940 Mississippi State vs. Alabama, it was played at Old Denny Stadium.  Mississippi State was running the Singlewing and Alabama was running the Notre Dame Box.  You would think that the further football gets away from these old style offenses, the more you would see modern day coaches willing to adapt some of them.  With those old style offenses being so different than what is run today, it would provide a different look and challenge for opposing teams.  To be different and to do something different, you don't have to reinvent the wheel so to speak.  Just do something that hasn't been done in a long time.

Having 1st hand experience coaching both the Box and single wing offenses, they both tend to make parents and fans really mad unless you're winning 9 or more games every season. 

 

In the NFL Kansas City's coach has run a handful of single wing plays from the 30's with success.

[Dawg83]

2 hours ago, pancho said:

I think Lebby has the "IT" that is needed to compete in today's game. I'll be interested to see if that "IT" can lead to more than 4 or 5 wins this season.

State can be a much better team and still only go 5-7 again. This is one of the toughest schedules in school history. It’s not number one, I’d probably have to go 2009 for that. But it’s up there.

[s1nglewing]

Sorry - I only see three likely wins for MSU.  Where do you think they get the other two?

[pancho]

EKU, AZ State, Toledo, Umass.......maybe hope to beat the Hogs in starkville? 

[Dawg83]

4 hours ago, s1nglewing said:

Sorry - I only see three likely wins for MSU.  Where do you think they get the other two?

Oh there’s a path to 6, maybe 7 if someone like A&M or Mizzou underperforms (both play in Starkville this year).

 

State has four very winnable nonconference games and then home games against Arkansas and Florida, one of whom lost to State in Fayetteville last year and both of whom were sub .500 teams last year.

 

The road schedule is brutal but there are a bunch of winnable home games. That trip to the desert in Week 2 is massive. Arizona State went 3-9 last year, that’s probably a must win game for State to get to bowl eligibility.

 

I personally think it’s a 5-7 or 6-6 team. But they’ve got to start strong because the schedule after Week 4 is a bear.

Edited August 13, 2024 by Dawg83

[NoWammies]

As much as it made me dry heave to do it I threw $5K down on State to go over 4.5 wins this year. I see wins over EKU, ASU, Toledo, UMASS and Arky. I think they have the potential to go at least 6-6 but I don’t see anything worse than 5-7. 

[Bulldogs4]

The schedule is brutal. I think for most of us, if we are more competitive this year with an offensive pulse, it will be an acceptable season. Wins are going to be hard to come by but if we are in some games then we will have a chance. Last year the offense was so horrid that once we were down by more than one score the game was over. At least this year, I can see us having a boxers chance in several games. 
And hopefully no 51-10 type games either. 
 

Lebby was a good hire and while I am sure he will have WTF moments this fall, he will big upgrade over the previous HC.