CFB Week 3 Thread

[Dawg83]

I still consider Arkansas and Auburn to be winnable games. That can change but I feel that’s a reasonable opinion as of today.

 

But you are spot on, the LSU game is massive for State in terms of reaching 6 wins. The path is much more difficult if they lose.

Edited September 19, 2021 by Dawg83

[MSUBulldog2010]

The first picture is the home stadium of Arkansas St. University who dropped 50 points on Memphis last week while the second picture is obviously Davis Wade Stadium home of the Miss St. Bulldogs who held on to beat La-Tech by 1 point at home and who just lost to Memphis. Need I say more in regards to those who both do more with less as well as those who do less with more?  

Edited September 19, 2021 by MSUBulldog2010

[Unionman76]

that's a really old picture of arkansas state's stadium

 

 there are skyboxes, waterfalls, etc., the stadium looks pretty good

 

[hasbeen67]

I don't think anything is guaranteed for MSU.  It was an awful lot of luck in beating La. Tech.  When you make as many mistakes as they do, you can lose to anyone.  But granted, if they play clean, they have a chance to win a few anyway.  Well we're a baseball school anyway.  I think I'll go for MSU in baseball and OM in football. Can you do that?

[rebmus]

Just now, hasbeen67 said:

 I think I'll go for MSU in baseball and OM in football. Can you do that?

Sure you can do that. 

Honestly, if I could make myself to find a new football team... Alabama would be my choice. If I were you and considering a change... I'd go with Bama.

 

Edited September 19, 2021 by rebmus

[Dawg83]

I mean people aren’t gonna wanna hear it but this kind of loss is not remotely new for a Mike Leach team. Even his good teams had weird, head scratching losses from time to time.

 

Not necessarily calling State a good team this year, but I’m telling you this probably isn’t the last wacky loss Leach has at State, even if he ends up being a big success.

[Dawg83]

We are still a couple of weeks away and I need to think about it some more….

 

But I might pick Ole Miss to beat Bama.

[rebmus]

OM's offense has put up 444 yards and 40 points in the first half. I don't know if that's a record for OM, but it has to be close. 

 

Giving up 21 points in the first half to Tulane on the other hand... 

The defense definitely looks better than last year, but it will be issues against SEC teams. 

[MSTSatchmo]

6 minutes ago, Dawg83 said:

We are still a couple of weeks away and I need to think about it some more….

 

But I might pick Ole Miss to beat Bama.

There will not be another coach better prepared for Bama’s defense than Kiffin.  

[Wcchaingang]

40 minutes ago, MSTSatchmo said:

There will not be another coach better prepared for Bama’s defense than Kiffin.  

Corral is running it tonight more than usual on design or read plays. Just something else to give them to look at.

[Wcchaingang]

And Corral, Drummond, Mingo, and Sanders don’t need to step back on the field for tonight.

[s1nglewing]

Think Ole Miss' coach is trying to make a statement?

[MSTSatchmo]

3 minutes ago, s1nglewing said:

Think Ole Miss' coach is trying to make a statement?

I think the statement is Oklahoma is severely overrated.

[s1nglewing]

9 minutes ago, MSTSatchmo said:

I think the statement is Oklahoma is severely overrated.

Probably so

[rebmus]

Just now, MSTSatchmo said:

I think the statement is Oklahoma is severely overrated.

Very fair statement. 

 

 

[Dawg83]

He has to continue to do it against SEC competition, but at this stage it’s hard to argue that Corral isn’t a legit Heisman contender. If he has a big game and beats Bama I think he for sure jumps to the front of the line.

[s1nglewing]

Plumlee is not #2?

 

[rebmus]

OM's D pitched a shutout in the second half. It's "only Tulane", but still... obviously improvement from last year. 

 

 

[rebmus]

2 hours ago, Dawg83 said:

I still consider Arkansas and Auburn to be winnable games. That can change but I feel that’s a reasonable opinion as of today.

 

But you are spot on, the LSU game is massive for State in terms of reaching 6 wins. The path is much more difficult if they lose.

Winnable, sure. 

Arkansas and Auburn both host MSU and both sure look better than MSU right now. 

 

 

[MSTSatchmo]

10 minutes ago, rebmus said:

Winnable, sure. 

Arkansas and Auburn both host MSU and both sure look better than MSU right now. 

 

 

Both of those are long shots for State.  Arkansas is playing much better than State and Auburn looked impressive in a loss.  Either would be a big upset.   
 

TN State and Vandy should be wins.  UK is a toss up, and LSU is possible.   They need all those to reach 6, because they have ZERO chance against Bama, A&M, and OM.  
 

 

[Dawg83]

7 hours ago, MSTSatchmo said:

Both of those are long shots for State.  Arkansas is playing much better than State and Auburn looked impressive in a loss.  Either would be a big upset.   
 

TN State and Vandy should be wins.  UK is a toss up, and LSU is possible.   They need all those to reach 6, because they have ZERO chance against Bama, A&M, and OM.  
 

 

I agree with most of this. I can’t see them beating Bama/A&M/OM today, and the Kentucky and LSU games are super important, especially at home.

 

I am just not totally totally sold on Arkansas yet, specifically their QB. If you slow down their run and make Jefferson beat you, which I think State’s defense can, you have a chance to beat them. That has the makings of a really ugly game in my opinion, because I don’t have much faith in State’s offense against Odom either. But I stand by that being a game State is capable of winning.

 

Auburn is probably a little bit less likely of a win, but I kinda feel the same way matchup wise as I do with Arkansas. I do not trust their QB and if State can take away the run they will have a real chance to muck it up and win an ugly game.

 

As frustrating as the loss yesterday was, I don’t feel any less confident in State’s defense. Offensively they can’t keep doing this crap where they go dead silent for two quarters every game. But the defense is going to keep them in a lot of games. 

[Dawg83]

Looked at some stats with State’s offense and found some interesting notes.

 

Rogers leads the league in passing yards, attempts, and completion percentage, but is 10th in QBR and 11th in yards per attempt. And State is 11th in total offense.

 

What does that tell you? Volume does not equal efficiency for State right now. Relying far too much on these 2-3 yard dump offs and not taking near enough chances on explosive plays. I would be willing to accept a little bit lower completion percentage and a little more turnover risk for a greater sense of urgency on offense.

 

You are asking your OL to do way too much with these drives where you are dropping back to pass 12-15 times and MAYBE you’ll score. Too much room for something to go wrong (penalty, sack, etc.). Maybe it’s a Rogers issue, maybe it’s a play calling issue, most likely it’s some of both. But it’s time to start forcing the issue with this offense. Things have been entirely too conservative this year and the results bear that out.

[pancho]

Leach will be lucky if he has a healthy RB remaining in the next 3-4 games.  The dump off passes to an unprotected RB is a serious health risk. The O Line has some serious issues and I see now why Lashley never played at Bama. He was exhausted mid 3 rd quarter and had to be replaced.

[MSTSatchmo]

That’s right.  Those RBs were taking some shots.   I watched some of their game, and while I was watching Rogers wasn’t under a lot of pressure.  He just always hit the RB.  Are the WRs all covered?   Can they still not figure out what to do against a zone?  

[pancho]

It's sure keeping the risk of an INT down to a bare minimum.