Chunky6617

That is correct… and that changes nothing. It doesn’t mean the Bible isn’t objective truth. It just means billions of people are wrong.

For people who read into the Bible to make it say what they want it to, that could be true… like say for instance, trying to find justification in scripture to have sex before marriage. It’s not a spiritual belief. It’s biblical truth. If I could determine what was biblical truth, I would come up with something different than what it is. The Bible is the standard of truth, regardless if I like it or not. It has nothing to do with me. God is God, I am not.

Agreed. Once life is established, it’s to be protected

At the moment of conception is the instant moment you have a baby, correct. A new life is created at that moment

Has nothing to do with me.

Correct. Some receive justice, others receive mercy. In either case, God is glorified. He is glorified when he punishes a sinner in their rebellion against him, and he is glorified in his mercy and forgiveness he gives to others. 14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth." 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills. (Romans 9:14, ESV)

That may the case for someone who is already Christian. Those who are not believers do not have a spiritual walk with God. They are haters of God, as I once was too. And apart from God granting me faith, I would still be a hater of God, dead in my sin. We all choose to sin. The only difference between a believers sin and an un-believers sin is that the believers sin has been forgiven. And if he is truly a believer, he will sin less and less, and produce fruit

Why would anybody not believe in predestination? It’s scriptural.

Most definitely there are. Free will is something many people have made an idol. I have no problem accepting that I have no free will. I believe God is sovereign over all things, and nothing happens that he doesn’t decree or allow to happen. The only thing that I cannot explain is the relationship between God’s sovereignty and man’s responsibility. God is sovereign over ALL things, but yet at the same time man is responsible for his actions. That’s something that cannot really he explained

It’s not a theory. An offering and a calling are not the same thing. As for a scripture passage, I quoted one in Romans. Those whom he foreknew, he predestined. Those whom he predestined, he called. Those whom he called, he justified. Those whom he justified, he glorified. This is the process in which a person becomes a Christian. It was determined before they were ever born. Not everyone is called to faith. If they were, they would be justified and saved.

Free will is another myth that we convinced ourselves that we have, but that also is not a biblical concept. It took me a while to understand that too. We have a human will, but our will is not free. It’s in bondage to sin. We actually can’t choose God, because we are dead spiritually. We are dead in our trespasses and sin. What can a dead person do? Nothing. Dead people can’t do anything. According to the Bible, are none who do good, and none who seek God. It takes God giving us new life, and drawing us to him. No one can come to Christ, unless the father first draws him. When we put our faith in Christ, it’s because God determined that we would do so before we were ever born. Had God not chosen us to be his, we would never have come to faith. It’s all of God, and to him be the glory alone .

You will have to repeat that question again. What do you mean by a timeline? I’m not sure how Texas came to their timeline of 6 weeks. But a timeline for when life begins is clear. Life begins immediately at the moment of conception. All abortion should be from that moment forward. If a state wanted to make a case where abortion is only allowed if a woman’s life is in clear and imminent danger if she carries out the pregnancy full term, I could possibly at least see a self defense argument that could be made for that. Other than that however, all abortion should be totally illegal in all circumstances.

That’s something that we kind of told ourselves and convinced ourselves of along the way somewhere. But that’s not what scripture says. Apart from God softening our heart of stone, we will always choose to reject God. It all starts and ends with God. If a person comes to faith in Christ, it’s because God granted them that faith. It’s not because of some good will choice that they made on their own. Christians are not called “choosers of God”. They are called “chosen by God”.

It’s known as God’s effectual calling, where he calls believers to himself. It’s not the same as the call to repentance, or the call to keep his commandments.

Everyone is offered salvation, but not all are called TO salvation. Those who are called to salvation cannot resist the call. They were chosen by God for salvation before the world was ever created. They will be saved, none of them will be lost. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified. (Romans 8:30, ESV)

No…. All are offered. Everyone. Only those who are called will repent and come to faith. Those who are not called will not repent. The offer is universal however.

Not exactly. Everyone is to blame for their actions. We aren’t condemned based on whether or not we are called. We are condemned by our sin. And everyone is offered salvation, however only those who are called will achieve it. Those who are not called, will reject it.

Exactly

I never said Mize is going to beat Enterprise

He actually does force us in a way. We cannot resist his calling. He doesn’t call everyone, and the ones that he does will never resist that call. He is sovereign over all things.

That’s not accurate actually. Nowhere does the Bible say we are free to choose Jesus. It actually says that due to us being dead in our trespasses and sins, that none of us will come to Christ apart from him drawing us to him first. The only way we can even come to faith in Christ is for God to first grant us that faith. We have a human will, but it’s not a free will. We are in bondage to sin. When it comes to anything of spiritual significance, we will always choose the wrong thing and will never choose God. Those who come to faith in Christ are those whom God in his mercy chose for himself before the foundation of the world.

I’m not sure, but even if that’s the case it essentially ends abortion because most people do not even know they are pregnant until they are 6 weeks along.

This week is finally here. We are playing our first game of the season, haven’t practiced in 2 weeks, still are without our head coach… and still going to surprise yall

They didn’t say pornography was wrong either. However, when you take ALL of the Bible in its entirety and in its proper context, you can easily know that it is. It’s not even a vague issue that is difficult to understand.

No. Smith county schools have been closed for two weeks and will resume classes on Tuesday