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I think the opt-out is a bunch of a crap and as far as I am concerned they are quitters. 
 

Call them what they are. Quitters. 

 

Now they have every right to do just that and I don’t have a problem with it but just say “I quit the team” and be done with it. 
 

 

Because if your team has a game to play and you willfully abstain from playing in it then that is the definition of quitting.

 

If they are injured or there other family medical issues at hand, then that is completely different and perfectly understandable. 

 

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Just now, Wcchaingang said:

Corral said after egg bowl if he was physically able he was playing.

Yep, Corral didn't even hesitate. Of course, he could change his mind... but I doubt he sits out. 

 

I've seen/heard no rumors of any OM players sitting out. 

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6 minutes ago, rebmus said:

Yep, Corral didn't even hesitate. Of course, he could change his mind... but I doubt he sits out. 

 

I've seen/heard no rumors of any OM players sitting out. 

You could tell the way he battled through the injuries that this team meant a lot to him and I don’t see him giving up on them.

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1 hour ago, Bulldogs4 said:

I think the opt-out is a bunch of a crap and as far as I am concerned they are quitters. 
 

Call them what they are. Quitters. 

 

Now they have every right to do just that and I don’t have a problem with it but just say “I quit the team” and be done with it. 
 

 

Because if your team has a game to play and you willfully abstain from playing in it then that is the definition of quitting.

 

If they are injured or there other family medical issues at hand, then that is completely different and perfectly understandable. 

 


I understand that.  I read a while back that some NFL scouts have suggested to players that they should not play.  High draft players that teams don’t want to pass on.  
 

I don’t see Corral sitting either.  He’s played through so many injuries already.  Of course that could be reasoned the other way. 

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I get what you're saying B4, I'm not a fan of players sitting out bowl games. 

At the same time, I get it... especially with players set to play in a middle tier and lower bowls... maybe even NY6 bowls that aren't playoff bowls. An injury in a bowl game can drop you from first round money to a much much lower draft pick with much much less money in the contract. 

In recent history, NFL teams sure don't seem to drop off players that sit out bowl games but sure drop off players that get injured in bowl games.  

 

 

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Reb,

 

I completely understand what you said and it is the player’s decision. And I am fine with that. I think probably an agent coined that phrase “opt-out” to one of his clients a few years back to soften the sound of the decision. The word “quit” connotes a very negative image in society today so they went about shifting the narrative to make the player look better. 
 

I get it and understand the reasons behind it. As you noted the NFL has swallowed it too since they do not penalize a player by dropping them down in the draft order even though they are a quitter. 
 

 

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If Charles Cross decides he doesn’t want to play in the Liberty Bowl against a 6-6 team, I have a hard time holding that against him.

 

This feels like it’s going to be the new normal for guys who aren’t in the Playoff or NY6. I totally get why Corral wants to play in the Sugar Bowl. At the same time, if Ole Miss was playing in the Duke’s Mayonnaise Bowl I feel like Luke Altmyer would be your starting QB.

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1 hour ago, Dawg83 said:

If Charles Cross decides he doesn’t want to play in the Liberty Bowl against a 6-6 team, I have a hard time holding that against him.

 

This feels like it’s going to be the new normal for guys who aren’t in the Playoff or NY6. I totally get why Corral wants to play in the Sugar Bowl. At the same time, if Ole Miss was playing in the Duke’s Mayonnaise Bowl I feel like Luke Altmyer would be your starting QB.

I'm not sure about Corral, I lean he'd be playing no matter what bowl OM was in. He's just wired to play and give it his all... a damn the torpedoes type of guy. Heck, it took him being pretty injured before he FINALLY started sliding before hitting LBs trying to get an extra yard. He's fun to watch like that, at the same time he takes too many risks playing like that. I agree overall with what you said, MANY players are good examples of it... Corral is more of an exception to sitting out I think. 

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Just now, pancho said:

How many wins does the SEC get from the 13 bowl games?  I'll say 9

Picking bowl games is probably the hardest picks all season. 

As mentioned, you have players ending up sitting out.  MSU should easily beat Texas Tech IMO, but IF Cross decides to sit out... the game gets more interesting. 

 

Who coaches the LSU bowl game? Is it Orgeron and the players want to send him out with a bowl win? Is it their new coach and how do the players respond this quickly to a new staff along with the new staff coaching a bunch of players they don't know? 

 

Notre Dame is another example. Change in coaching staff AND you have the angle of getting just left out of the top 4. Outside of the coaching, will the players go all out with a chip on their shoulders due to not being top 4 or just have a lazy effort because it's not a playoff bowl? We've certainly seen that happen with teams in a NY6 bowl that missed out on the top 4, just a lazy effort. 

 

8-9 feels like the right number, but I sure wouldn't put money on that.

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I agree D83. It is going to be a crap shoot. The silver lining for some of the middle / lower teams is that you could see a little used freshman or back up get to play who ends up shining in the bowl game. 
 

I would expect some topsy turvy results. 
 

In State’s case , like we have already alluded to, a win in the bowl game will help erase the EB loss and serve as a good lead into next season. 
 

As a football fan, I am pulling for Corral to have a good NFL career. Like Dak has done he will have to transform himself somewhat in the NFL but he has got a good gritty type of leadership that will play well in the pros. 

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7 hours ago, Bulldogs4 said:

 

As a football fan, I am pulling for Corral to have a good NFL career. Like Dak has done he will have to transform himself somewhat in the NFL but he has got a good gritty type of leadership that will play well in the pros. 

I'm wondering how high Corral goes in the draft. Honestly, while it's less money on the front end but it's better to fall in the draft and go to a good organization. 

While Dak has done a great job taking advantage of his situation, imagine if he had been drafted by the Jags or Lions? 

 

I've never really been a fan of Pittsburgh, but they're a well run organization over the years. I'd like to see Corral land somewhere like that. 

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It sounds like Cross and Emerson are probably opting out for State. I think State can figure it out at corner for now, LT will be interesting. As we’ve seen the last two years, sub-par OL play can derail the whole thing for this offense. So it will be important that Cross’s backup (presumably Nick Jones, a JUCO transfer) plays well.

 

That’s probably the path to a Texas Tech win, cause problems for State on the OL.

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I think Corral would excel at Pittsburgh or even New Orleans. The Saints desperately need a QB and I think he could fit that spot very well. 
 

Green Bay would be another place that I could see him doing very well. Like Reb said I hope he doesn’t get stuck in a sad place like Detroit or Miami or the NYJets etc. I watch very little NFL these days, I even withdrew from my fantasy league two years ago because I got tired of all the political BS that was going on. 
 

That said I still pull for our Mississippi kids to have success in the NFL regardless of which college they played for. 
 

D83, I am will be disappointed if Cross and Emerson quit the team before playing in the bowl game. But that is their decision. 
 

Leach had an interesting take on it in his press conference. At least he speaks his mind. He did take some criticism because coaches break contracts and jump ship too. But it is a bit of apples and oranges because they are also subject to being fired in the middle of the season i.e. Les Miles(2016), the coach at Texas Tech, Dan Mullen etc. for no apparent reason. You don’t see a player dismissed during the season because the team lost a game. 
 

 

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At the end of the Northern Illinois-Coastal Carolina game, the official cost NIU a chance at winning the game. 
 

They had a FD at the 4 yard line with 2  seconds left, he sets the ball and just stands behind the center starts the time and then let’s it run out before he moves out the way. 
 

Now there is no way to know if they would have scored. But he just stood there and finally moved after the clock hit 0:00. 
 

One of our guys in our fantasy competition had put 34 points on CC so we were all bummed when NIU did not at least get a chance run that last play. 
 

Oh well, doing the fantasy picks at least makes the bowl season a bit more fun.

I am 2-0 so far but only have 3 points…LOL. 

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Already some upside down bowl results (which is no surprise).

Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, UAB (though I picked them in my fantasy picks) all won as underdogs. 
 

Jackson State after all the recruiting buzz from Wednesday certainly laid an egg Saturday. Not a good look for Sanders. A win Saturday would have been a great momentum builder for him and JSU. They have historically struggled outside the SWAC and that was a great chance to dispel some of that old perception. 

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A&M is pathetic. Big p*****s.

 

Just play the game with whatever players  want to play and are able to play. 
 

If State can play @ Georgia with 44 players then the Aggies can surely find some twelfth men to fill in the gaps. 
Rutgers is taking their place. Completely asinine. 
 

They should have to pay the SEC whatever bowl money they were going to receive and forfeit whatever share was theirs from the overall kitty.  

 

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7 hours ago, Bulldogs4 said:

A&M is pathetic. Big p*****s.

 

Just play the game with whatever players  want to play and are able to play. 
 

If State can play @ Georgia with 44 players then the Aggies can surely find some twelfth men to fill in the gaps. 
Rutgers is taking their place. Completely asinine. 
 

They should have to pay the SEC whatever bowl money they were going to receive and forfeit whatever share was theirs from the overall kitty.  

 

Exactly. A&M pulled the same stunt last year during the regular season while MSU and Leach (as you mentioned) played Georgia last year with only 44 players. 

 

A&M should definitely have to forfeit whatever share they get from the overall kitty, no excuse not to play. 

 

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