MSTSatchmo Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Should, but you never know what a roster will look like when the bowl game kicks off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSTSatchmo Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 I see Arkansas’ WR Burks is entering the draft and opting out of the bowl game. Are any State or OM players expected to do the same? Maybe Cross or Corral or Sam Williams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs4 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 I think the opt-out is a bunch of a crap and as far as I am concerned they are quitters. Call them what they are. Quitters. Now they have every right to do just that and I don’t have a problem with it but just say “I quit the team” and be done with it. Because if your team has a game to play and you willfully abstain from playing in it then that is the definition of quitting. If they are injured or there other family medical issues at hand, then that is completely different and perfectly understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wcchaingang Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 1 hour ago, MSTSatchmo said: I see Arkansas’ WR Burks is entering the draft and opting out of the bowl game. Are any State or OM players expected to do the same? Maybe Cross or Corral or Sam Williams? Corral said after egg bowl if he was physically able he was playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebmus Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 Just now, Wcchaingang said: Corral said after egg bowl if he was physically able he was playing. Yep, Corral didn't even hesitate. Of course, he could change his mind... but I doubt he sits out. I've seen/heard no rumors of any OM players sitting out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wcchaingang Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, rebmus said: Yep, Corral didn't even hesitate. Of course, he could change his mind... but I doubt he sits out. I've seen/heard no rumors of any OM players sitting out. You could tell the way he battled through the injuries that this team meant a lot to him and I don’t see him giving up on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSTSatchmo Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Bulldogs4 said: I think the opt-out is a bunch of a crap and as far as I am concerned they are quitters. Call them what they are. Quitters. Now they have every right to do just that and I don’t have a problem with it but just say “I quit the team” and be done with it. Because if your team has a game to play and you willfully abstain from playing in it then that is the definition of quitting. If they are injured or there other family medical issues at hand, then that is completely different and perfectly understandable. I understand that. I read a while back that some NFL scouts have suggested to players that they should not play. High draft players that teams don’t want to pass on. I don’t see Corral sitting either. He’s played through so many injuries already. Of course that could be reasoned the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebmus Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 I get what you're saying B4, I'm not a fan of players sitting out bowl games. At the same time, I get it... especially with players set to play in a middle tier and lower bowls... maybe even NY6 bowls that aren't playoff bowls. An injury in a bowl game can drop you from first round money to a much much lower draft pick with much much less money in the contract. In recent history, NFL teams sure don't seem to drop off players that sit out bowl games but sure drop off players that get injured in bowl games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs4 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Reb, I completely understand what you said and it is the player’s decision. And I am fine with that. I think probably an agent coined that phrase “opt-out” to one of his clients a few years back to soften the sound of the decision. The word “quit” connotes a very negative image in society today so they went about shifting the narrative to make the player look better. I get it and understand the reasons behind it. As you noted the NFL has swallowed it too since they do not penalize a player by dropping them down in the draft order even though they are a quitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg83 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 If Charles Cross decides he doesn’t want to play in the Liberty Bowl against a 6-6 team, I have a hard time holding that against him. This feels like it’s going to be the new normal for guys who aren’t in the Playoff or NY6. I totally get why Corral wants to play in the Sugar Bowl. At the same time, if Ole Miss was playing in the Duke’s Mayonnaise Bowl I feel like Luke Altmyer would be your starting QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebmus Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Dawg83 said: If Charles Cross decides he doesn’t want to play in the Liberty Bowl against a 6-6 team, I have a hard time holding that against him. This feels like it’s going to be the new normal for guys who aren’t in the Playoff or NY6. I totally get why Corral wants to play in the Sugar Bowl. At the same time, if Ole Miss was playing in the Duke’s Mayonnaise Bowl I feel like Luke Altmyer would be your starting QB. I'm not sure about Corral, I lean he'd be playing no matter what bowl OM was in. He's just wired to play and give it his all... a damn the torpedoes type of guy. Heck, it took him being pretty injured before he FINALLY started sliding before hitting LBs trying to get an extra yard. He's fun to watch like that, at the same time he takes too many risks playing like that. I agree overall with what you said, MANY players are good examples of it... Corral is more of an exception to sitting out I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 How many wins does the SEC get from the 13 bowl games? I'll say 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebmus Posted December 11, 2021 Author Share Posted December 11, 2021 Just now, pancho said: How many wins does the SEC get from the 13 bowl games? I'll say 9 Picking bowl games is probably the hardest picks all season. As mentioned, you have players ending up sitting out. MSU should easily beat Texas Tech IMO, but IF Cross decides to sit out... the game gets more interesting. Who coaches the LSU bowl game? Is it Orgeron and the players want to send him out with a bowl win? Is it their new coach and how do the players respond this quickly to a new staff along with the new staff coaching a bunch of players they don't know? Notre Dame is another example. Change in coaching staff AND you have the angle of getting just left out of the top 4. Outside of the coaching, will the players go all out with a chip on their shoulders due to not being top 4 or just have a lazy effort because it's not a playoff bowl? We've certainly seen that happen with teams in a NY6 bowl that missed out on the top 4, just a lazy effort. 8-9 feels like the right number, but I sure wouldn't put money on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg83 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 The LSU bowl situation is fascinating. Orgeron is not coaching and Max Johnson just entered the transfer portal. So they either have to burn the redshirt of a true freshman that’s already played in four games or start a walk-on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insideradvantage Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 LSU should just take a Wildcat approach at the QB spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg83 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 FWIW, I am expecting mixed results from SEC bowl games. Perhaps I am wrong but I don’t see the league as all that deep this year, in spite of having so many bowl teams. I lean more toward a 7-6 type record for the SEC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs4 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 I agree D83. It is going to be a crap shoot. The silver lining for some of the middle / lower teams is that you could see a little used freshman or back up get to play who ends up shining in the bowl game. I would expect some topsy turvy results. In State’s case , like we have already alluded to, a win in the bowl game will help erase the EB loss and serve as a good lead into next season. As a football fan, I am pulling for Corral to have a good NFL career. Like Dak has done he will have to transform himself somewhat in the NFL but he has got a good gritty type of leadership that will play well in the pros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebmus Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Bulldogs4 said: As a football fan, I am pulling for Corral to have a good NFL career. Like Dak has done he will have to transform himself somewhat in the NFL but he has got a good gritty type of leadership that will play well in the pros. I'm wondering how high Corral goes in the draft. Honestly, while it's less money on the front end but it's better to fall in the draft and go to a good organization. While Dak has done a great job taking advantage of his situation, imagine if he had been drafted by the Jags or Lions? I've never really been a fan of Pittsburgh, but they're a well run organization over the years. I'd like to see Corral land somewhere like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg83 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 It sounds like Cross and Emerson are probably opting out for State. I think State can figure it out at corner for now, LT will be interesting. As we’ve seen the last two years, sub-par OL play can derail the whole thing for this offense. So it will be important that Cross’s backup (presumably Nick Jones, a JUCO transfer) plays well. That’s probably the path to a Texas Tech win, cause problems for State on the OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs4 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I think Corral would excel at Pittsburgh or even New Orleans. The Saints desperately need a QB and I think he could fit that spot very well. Green Bay would be another place that I could see him doing very well. Like Reb said I hope he doesn’t get stuck in a sad place like Detroit or Miami or the NYJets etc. I watch very little NFL these days, I even withdrew from my fantasy league two years ago because I got tired of all the political BS that was going on. That said I still pull for our Mississippi kids to have success in the NFL regardless of which college they played for. D83, I am will be disappointed if Cross and Emerson quit the team before playing in the bowl game. But that is their decision. Leach had an interesting take on it in his press conference. At least he speaks his mind. He did take some criticism because coaches break contracts and jump ship too. But it is a bit of apples and oranges because they are also subject to being fired in the middle of the season i.e. Les Miles(2016), the coach at Texas Tech, Dan Mullen etc. for no apparent reason. You don’t see a player dismissed during the season because the team lost a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg83 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I definitely do think there’s an element to it where you kinda are leaving your teammates out to dry. Can’t say I’m thrilled with the idea of having a LT who has barely played this year responsible for protecting Will Rogers’ blindside in a bowl game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs4 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 At the end of the Northern Illinois-Coastal Carolina game, the official cost NIU a chance at winning the game. They had a FD at the 4 yard line with 2 seconds left, he sets the ball and just stands behind the center starts the time and then let’s it run out before he moves out the way. Now there is no way to know if they would have scored. But he just stood there and finally moved after the clock hit 0:00. One of our guys in our fantasy competition had put 34 points on CC so we were all bummed when NIU did not at least get a chance run that last play. Oh well, doing the fantasy picks at least makes the bowl season a bit more fun. I am 2-0 so far but only have 3 points…LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs4 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Already some upside down bowl results (which is no surprise). Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, UAB (though I picked them in my fantasy picks) all won as underdogs. Jackson State after all the recruiting buzz from Wednesday certainly laid an egg Saturday. Not a good look for Sanders. A win Saturday would have been a great momentum builder for him and JSU. They have historically struggled outside the SWAC and that was a great chance to dispel some of that old perception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs4 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 A&M is pathetic. Big p*****s. Just play the game with whatever players want to play and are able to play. If State can play @ Georgia with 44 players then the Aggies can surely find some twelfth men to fill in the gaps. Rutgers is taking their place. Completely asinine. They should have to pay the SEC whatever bowl money they were going to receive and forfeit whatever share was theirs from the overall kitty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebmus Posted December 24, 2021 Author Share Posted December 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Bulldogs4 said: A&M is pathetic. Big p*****s. Just play the game with whatever players want to play and are able to play. If State can play @ Georgia with 44 players then the Aggies can surely find some twelfth men to fill in the gaps. Rutgers is taking their place. Completely asinine. They should have to pay the SEC whatever bowl money they were going to receive and forfeit whatever share was theirs from the overall kitty. Exactly. A&M pulled the same stunt last year during the regular season while MSU and Leach (as you mentioned) played Georgia last year with only 44 players. A&M should definitely have to forfeit whatever share they get from the overall kitty, no excuse not to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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