Rebel Bert Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 While non if us knows for sure what future Reclassification will bring, I have completed some comparison numbers for 1A to 3A. I will only list your school info with projected region and class if asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog2205 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 I heard Pisgah has grown since the reclassification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 4 37 minutes ago, Bulldog2205 said: I heard Pisgah has grown since the reclassification. 4 2A Schools would jump to 3A #29 Pisgah 2022(214), 2023(252) #33 Raleigh 2022(211), 2023(242) #38 Collins 2022(296), 2023(226) #40 Scott Central 2022(186), 2023(223) 2A #1 St Andrew's 2022(221), 2023(??) St Andrew's, St Stanislaus, OLA, St Patrick do not report #'s to MDE. Caution that St Andrew's could go to 3A and not Scott Central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 Don't get me wrong I did count the 8th-10th grades for 2023. Those #'s indicate should be 2024 9th-11th grade #'s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSSportsGuy Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) Last week Georgia's association released prelimnary enrolment nubmers going back to 6A being their largest class after 7A being the largest class for a couple of cycles. This apparently was passed in 2022 but will take effect starting with 2024-25 cycle. Reasons given were to create larger regions and cut down on travel. https://sports.yahoo.com/ghsa-approves-move-back-six-223100095.html Granted they are a much larger state with many more schools but their 6A will have 65 schools. They use a 3.0 multiplier to add for students who are considered to be out of their zone so some numbers look strange, but a quick examination of the FTE for 6A has Brookwood in Gwinnett County with 3880 with the smallest 6A being 2084 in Alpharetta High. I wonder if their assocation was concerned about reducing excitement, or if Alpharetta High will have a fit because they will be in a class with a much larger school on top, as some of the old 6A apparently were upset about being with Tupelo and Desoto Central having so many more students. https://www.ghsa.net/sites/default/files/documents/reclassification/GHSA_Reclassification_2024-26.pdf Of course I'm the jerk who regularly bashed 7 classes and will because we all know it was largely done to make more $$ and to appease a small number of coaches, sold under the guise it was more equitable for the students while basically ignoring the association benefits the most. I really am curious to see if people are happy with the 7 classes if they think about it. 6 was plenty for a state our size and I would guess 5 would still be okay with consolidations inevitably on the horizon. Edited November 5, 2023 by MSSportsGuy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NothingAsItSeems Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Mississippi needs a multiplier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 hour ago, MSSportsGuy said: Last week Georgia's association released prelimnary enrolment nubmers going back to 6A being their largest class after 7A being the largest class for a couple of cycles. This apparently was passed in 2022 but will take effect starting with 2024-25 cycle. Reasons given were to create larger regions and cut down on travel. https://sports.yahoo.com/ghsa-approves-move-back-six-223100095.html Granted they are a much larger state with many more schools but their 6A will have 65 schools. They use a 3.0 multiplier to add for students who are considered to be out of their zone so some numbers look strange, but a quick examination of the FTE for 6A has Brookwood in Gwinnett County with 3880 with the smallest 6A being 2084 in Alpharetta High. I wonder if their assocation was concerned about reducing excitement, or if Alpharetta High will have a fit because they will be in a class with a much larger school on top, as some of the old 6A apparently were upset about being with Tupelo and Desoto Central having so many more students. https://www.ghsa.net/sites/default/files/documents/reclassification/GHSA_Reclassification_2024-26.pdf Of course I'm the jerk who regularly bashed 7 classes and will because we all know it was largely done to make more $$ and to appease a small number of coaches, sold under the guise it was more equitable for the students while basically ignoring the association benefits the most. I really am curious to see if people are happy with the 7 classes if they think about it. 6 was plenty for a state our size and I would guess 5 would still be okay with consolidations inevitably on the horizon. I would like to go back to 6 classes with 12 regions and top 3 qualify for playoffs. Top 4 gets buys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccbulldog Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 7 classes is absolutely terrible! So many blowouts this weekend in first round of playoffs where 2-8 teams are making the playoffs. Everything is so watered down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 i saw that Myrtle hosted and had 1 win on the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, pancho said: i saw that Myrtle hosted and had 1 win on the year. Region 2 #2 won the only game that counted to get the 2 seed. One of those regions with 2 non football playing schools out of 6 total. That's what happens when 1A goes to 8 regions instead of 4 x 9 or 10 for football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wareaglefan1us Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I don’t believe the MHSAA will ever go back they will not admit they made a mistake. They’re not worried about the product they put on the field only that you spend your money supporting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 I think it'll stay this way forever. there will continue to be a few random enrollment peaks and drops which will cause schools to change classifications but not many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 hours ago, pancho said: I think it'll stay this way forever. there will continue to be a few random enrollment peaks and drops which will cause schools to change classifications but not many. Based on 2023 numbers shake up coming between 1A, 2A, 3A with 20 schools changing classes according to 8th-10th grade numbers. Not unusual I think just who may go up or down might surprise some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigersFan Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 What was the cut off between classifications last time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 hours ago, TigersFan said: What was the cut off between classifications last time? 7A #24 960 6A #1 944 6A #24 699 5A #1 690 5A #24 501 4A #1 499 4A #40 343 3A #1 342 3A #41 222 2A #1 221 2A #40 157 1A #1 156 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Rebel Bert said: 7A #24 960 6A #1 944 6A #24 699 5A #1 690 5A #24 501 4A #1 499 4A #40 343 3A #1 342 3A #41 222 2A #1 221 2A #40 157 1A #1 156 I will say if JPS sends all of Wingfield students to Forest Hill as rumored then Forest Hill will be 7A. One school will drop from 7A to 6A , 6A to 5A, 5A to 4A replacing Forest Hill. One will go up from 3A to 4A. The rest will be split 3A to 1A. So it work itself out but there will be movement on that point. That's pending a December 5th meeting and finalizing of a JPS plan to consolidate or close 16 schools including Wingfield and it's 2 middle schools. I think 1 middle school will stay open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpikeboy2 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 11/6/2023 at 12:39 PM, Rebel Bert said: 7A #24 960 6A #1 944 6A #24 699 5A #1 690 5A #24 501 4A #1 499 4A #40 343 3A #1 342 3A #41 222 2A #1 221 2A #40 157 1A #1 156 Was this 10-12? or 9-12? Because it can't be 9-12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastfootballfanman Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 24 minutes ago, Southpikeboy2 said: Was this 10-12? or 9-12? Because it can't be 9-12 The state began taking numbers based on grades 9-11 during the previous reclass cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Southpikeboy2 said: Was this 10-12? or 9-12? Because it can't be 9-12 9-11, that was one of the changes proposed by if I remember correctly someone saying District 5 area(East Central area schools) passed thru the process. 9-11 is the grades MHSAA now counts for reclassification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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