rebmus Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 OM/Vandy got started and radar looks decent. Hopefully this game can be completed tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wcchaingang Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 I don’t think it can be stated enough what Tim Elko means to this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs4 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 WOW, heartbreaking loss for Ole Miss. State-UT makes for an interesting matchup given that we did not face each other during the regular season. Here is hoping we show up today and play a baseball game. Yesterday we were still in Tuscaloosa or Starkvegas or on the bus at 9:30 a.m. We will see in just a little while. Tough / tight turnaround for Ole Miss with the late game and now an early afternoon game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg83 Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 I think Bianco stuck with Dougherty too long. But I also realize Broadway wasn’t available and OM is not exactly known for their deep bullpen. He had worked in and out of trouble all night so I get sticking with him up until the point Vandy tied it. Just think I would’ve made the change at that point Curious to see what both teams show us in the loser’s bracket today, I still think State is a Top 8 seed no matter what but a win over a close competitor like UT wouldn’t hurt. OM seems pretty locked in to that 11-13 seed range barring an unlikely run, would probably have to win the next three games to even have the national seed discussion and that just seems like a tough road to hoe given who is on that side of the bracket and the pitching that OM has already used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSTSatchmo Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 I’m going out on a limb and say that State doesn’t make it out of their own regional. The starting pitching has been too inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 I agree. The starting arms can't consistently give 6-7 innings and the hitting is not good with RISP. They do not look like a top 25 type team at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wcchaingang Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Really bad 2 days for State. It’s one thing to go 2 and home but getting mercy ruled twice is tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg83 Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) I mean yeah it’s as bad of a showing in Hoover as you can possibly have. Still don’t think it means a ton in the grand scheme of things. Maybe there’s a chance it costs you a Top 8 seed (25-30% chance of that right now, IMO) but even that’s not the end all be all. I’ll say what I’ve said for a while now, this State team is going to be a total crap shoot in the postseason. I think it’s dangerous to take too much away from these two games, but there are also some holes that I could see causing them to bow out of their own Regional. Not a single thing would surprise me. My guess is State ends up being fine in Regional and then we will see what happens in a Super. But it all depends on matchups, of course. If you send State a Tennessee Tech 2018 type of 2 seed that can rake, I think they’ll have problems. If they are playing average to below average hitting teams then they probably can manufacture enough offense to take care of business. Edited May 27, 2021 by Dawg83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 I just cancelled my hotel for the super regional. too risky with the way they looked. I know they will try to flush this and work harder in the regional at home but at some point they must face reality. Lemonis still doesn't have a 3rd baseman, a 1st baseman or a left fielder. Then add to that the fact that the starting pitching is inconsistent with no true 3rd day guy and I don't think they really know who the next pen guy is from one day to the next. It's either a recruiting issue or a coaching issue for the pitching staff at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmilwaukee Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 to be the devil's advocate, in the 2018 sec baseball tourney state lost their first game and was eliminated. made it to omaha. 2019 sec tourney, won vs lsu, shutout against vandy and got run ruled and eliminated by lsu. made it to omaha. I'm not trying to defend this terrible showings this week, just saying it ain't over. (but pancho, i don't blame you for cancelling the reservation lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg83 Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 35 minutes ago, mrmilwaukee said: to be the devil's advocate, in the 2018 sec baseball tourney state lost their first game and was eliminated. made it to omaha. 2019 sec tourney, won vs lsu, shutout against vandy and got run ruled and eliminated by lsu. made it to omaha. I'm not trying to defend this terrible showings this week, just saying it ain't over. (but pancho, i don't blame you for cancelling the reservation lol) Those great South Carolina teams in the early 2010's made a habit of not caring about Hoover in the least bit. Certainly not putting this State team on that level. But there's no real correlation between Hoover success and Regional success. Plenty of examples in whatever direction you want to spin it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wcchaingang Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 If OM can get this version of McDaniel and Diamond it will be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Those USC teams coached by Tanner knew who their defensive starters were and and knew who the top 4 or 5 arms were and had a closer that was used more than 25 pitches a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg83 Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, pancho said: Those USC teams coached by Tanner knew who their defensive starters were and and knew who the top 4 or 5 arms were and had a closer that was used more than 25 pitches a week. State will go to Sims more frequently in the postseason, I feel pretty confident in that. The other issues are very legitimate concerns though. It's a good team but far from a complete team. But the college baseball postseason is weird so who knows what to expect from this team. They have the talent in certain spots to go a long, long way, and also some deficiencies that could have their season finished pretty quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs4 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Certainly very disappointing for State but as 83 noted this is not the end. It would appear that the team lacked motivation in either game this week. That is a dangerous way to play. It is hard to turn it on and turn it off. We now have 8 days to stew about this. I have no idea id that is good or bad but we will find out next Friday. It really is a crap shoot with State at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebmus Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 State has been pretty solid this year, I lean towards they make it through a regional. State, like Ole Miss, I like their chances better in a Super Regional due to lack of depth. (OM's lack of depth on the mound is much worse than MSU's, that's why I'll be pleasantly surprised if OM makes it through a regional). The one thing that may well have changed for MSU, there's a decent chance they won't be a NS now. MSU and Texas Tech are the only two NS that may drop out IMO... and Texas Tech can seal theirs with a win over TCU tomorrow. Even if TCU knocks out TT, TCU is getting in the conversation for a NS then. IF Stanford has a good weekend, I see them taking a NS slot. IF East Carolina wins the American tourney, they'll be in the NS discussion. Florida is another team to watch, IF they pull out a SECT title, I see them moving into a NS and dropping MSU out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebmus Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Wcchaingang said: If OM can get this version of McDaniel and Diamond it will be interesting. Nikhazy and Broadway have been solid. McDaniel and Diamond looked pretty good in their outings. Johnson showed some promise out of the bullpen also this week. Dougherty has show SOME promise also. He ate some much needed innings against Vandy. While he took the loss, he did eat 3 innings. IF Dougherty and Johnson can eat some innings while someone else can pick up a close (outside of Broadway), Ole Miss could make it through a regional. That's a big IF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebmus Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Florida beat Bama 7-2 to stay in the winner's bracket. Bama gets a rematch with UT tomorrow to see who gets another shot at Florida in the semis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wcchaingang Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, rebmus said: Nikhazy and Broadway have been solid. McDaniel and Diamond looked pretty good in their outings. Johnson showed some promise out of the bullpen also this week. Dougherty has show SOME promise also. He ate some much needed innings against Vandy. While he took the loss, he did eat 3 innings. IF Dougherty and Johnson can eat some innings while someone else can pick up a close (outside of Broadway), Ole Miss could make it through a regional. That's a big IF. Consistently has been the big problem outside of Nikhazy and Broadway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebmus Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Just now, Wcchaingang said: Consistently has been the big problem outside of Nikhazy and Broadway. Very much so. Well, other than Hoglund if we're including injured players. That injury was a HUGE loss for Ole Miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebmus Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Southern Miss hasn't been mentioned much ITT (if at all?). USM plays La. Tech tonight. The USM/La. Tech winner is in a good position to get a host spot. We could see 3 of the 16 host spots in this state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebmus Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Arkansas/Vandy has been a good one through 3 innings. 2-2 so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wcchaingang Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 hour ago, rebmus said: Very much so. Well, other than Hoglund if we're including injured players. That injury was a HUGE loss for Ole Miss. Well yea other than Hoglund. If he was healthy that was a 1-2 punch that you could run out against anyone with confidence. I also think losing Cioffi all year was a high loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebmus Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Just now, Wcchaingang said: Well yea other than Hoglund. If he was healthy that was a 1-2 punch that you could run out against anyone with confidence. I also think losing Cioffi all year was a high loss Yep. Cioffi was guy to take the pressure off Broadway to help close. This team has had every reason to lay down and fold over the bad luck of injuries but just keeps fighting through them. While I don't like OM's chances of making it out of a regional, I absolutely love the fight and spirit in this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg83 Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 Don't look now but USM is currently projected to host according to Baseball America. They've played well in their conference tourney while other host contenders have faded badly. Distinct possibility we are looking at three host sites in Mississippi. I worry that the committee won't let it happen and will screw USM over, but it would be awesome if it does happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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