wpgreenwave51 Posted Wednesday at 04:54 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:54 PM (edited) 5 hours ago, BoKnows08 said: West Point prior to Morgan spent 90% of their time in Power I running Power, Toss, Buck, Gator and Boot Pass with Ashley Kuhn and Chambliss when Dennis Allen was HC. They would get in what they called "Cannon Ball" or "Hammer" and run Power and Jet Sweep and that is about it 51. I am very familiar with West Point dating all the way back to the late 90s when they struggled to win their first game every year versus Columbus. Brett Morgan and Casey Welch took an already good well coached scheme and system and turned it into something much more advanced than what it was. West Point had begun to struggle because teams caught up with them and what they were doing. Morgan and Welch were a huge part of getting West Point back to what they are by being less PREDICTABLE on offense. Now Chambliss deserves the credit for hiring good assistants and letting them do their job and realizing that what they were doing was lagging from 11-15. West Point has plenty of tradition to be proud of but to even hint at the fact that Morgan and Welch weren't a huge part of getting them back on track is idiocrasy. @slicklizard call me out anytime but I am willing to bet I've watched twice as many West Point football games than you will ever see in your lifetime. "You come correct or your card will get pulled". Here ya go. You can check and see how many plays that WP is in the Power I in this and guess how many times they run POWER and TOSS. Teams were catching up. Chambliss knew it. Morgan knew it. They adjusted and got creative and it paid off in a big way! You say you're familiar with WP but I'm born and raised in WP. Oh yeah and PLAYED for WP. Attending EVERY single game but you go tell me you kno more about my team than I do. Not saying that Morgan didn't help but he didn't do 90% anything. Allen had his scheme that he wanted ran. Gresham used what Allen wanted and added the beast cat to it with Aeris. Morgan added more to it but it was already there. But think what you wanna think. https://youtu.be/dfG-buVDAT0?is=ySwKhPXDlItl3-QX Edited Wednesday at 08:28 PM by wpgreenwave51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows08 Posted Wednesday at 09:42 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:42 PM (edited) 4 hours ago, wpgreenwave51 said: You say you're familiar with WP but I'm born and raised in WP. Oh yeah and PLAYED for WP. Attending EVERY single game but you go tell me you kno more about my team than I do. Not saying that Morgan didn't help but he didn't do 90% anything. Allen had his scheme that he wanted ran. Gresham used what Allen wanted and added the beast cat to it with Aeris. Morgan added more to it but it was already there. But think what you wanna think. https://youtu.be/dfG-buVDAT0?is=ySwKhPXDlItl3-QX Never claimed to know anything other than the fact that Morgan’s seat was NOT hot in West Point as your soulmate @slicklizard claims it was since he is so well versed in WP football. Also pointed the fact that Morgan and Welch both did a great job at West Point. Maybe you would have seen that if you read a little higher in the thread. Edited Wednesday at 09:47 PM by BoKnows08 Edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows08 Posted Wednesday at 09:58 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:58 PM 4 hours ago, wpgreenwave51 said: You say you're familiar with WP but I'm born and raised in WP. Oh yeah and PLAYED for WP. Attending EVERY single game but you go tell me you kno more about my team than I do. Not saying that Morgan didn't help but he didn't do 90% anything. Allen had his scheme that he wanted ran. Gresham used what Allen wanted and added the beast cat to it with Aeris. Morgan added more to it but it was already there. But think what you wanna think. https://youtu.be/dfG-buVDAT0?is=ySwKhPXDlItl3-QX And you literally made my point for me in your cute little highlight video. PEOPLE CAUGHT UP WITH WEST POINT PRIOR TO BRETT MORGAN GETTING ON STAFF. Literally every play is from the exact same set other than the fake punt. West Point had become predictable for 5-6 years and because of it they struggled. Morgan fixed it by being creative and adding a very well designed play action pass game which is something WP didn’t have before him AT ALL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicklizard Posted Thursday at 12:11 AM Share Posted Thursday at 12:11 AM 1 hour ago, BoKnows08 said: And you literally made my point for me in your cute little highlight video. PEOPLE CAUGHT UP WITH WEST POINT PRIOR TO BRETT MORGAN GETTING ON STAFF. Literally every play is from the exact same set other than the fake punt. West Point had become predictable for 5-6 years and because of it they struggled. Morgan fixed it by being creative and adding a very well designed play action pass game which is something WP didn’t have before him AT ALL. Obviously appeasement don’t work with you so we will go down this road. you put awful a lot of words in my mouth there I didn’t say. Point blank you’re a liar. You’re probably a big liar in real life too, but I don’t know. I don’t wanna know you at all. So from now on on this site every post you make every period you type out I’m gonna be there. With a snide remark, a lie whatever. Whatever I have to do to disrupt any discussion, you try to have . So much so that it will probably disrupt the board. I don’t care. if I get my account taken away. I don’t care if you get your account taken away. I don’t care if both accounts get taken away.. Heres something else. You don’t ever start any threads. You don’t ever bring anything anybody wants to participate in You’re boring .Nobody likes you. Nobody wants you here but here you are. Enjoy your Morgan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpgreenwave51 Posted Thursday at 01:33 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:33 AM 3 hours ago, BoKnows08 said: And you literally made my point for me in your cute little highlight video. PEOPLE CAUGHT UP WITH WEST POINT PRIOR TO BRETT MORGAN GETTING ON STAFF. Literally every play is from the exact same set other than the fake punt. West Point had become predictable for 5-6 years and because of it they struggled. Morgan fixed it by being creative and adding a very well designed play action pass game which is something WP didn’t have before him AT ALL. I really didn't cause he was the WR coach that year and had been the WR & ST coach from 09 until he got bumped up to OC when the OC left. Morgan had the pleasure of inherenting the group with Marcus Murphy, Jason Brownlee, Chris Calvert, & company which had been running the offense from 7th grade until they graduated. That group never lost a game until they got to HS so that was easy. You still talking about 5 or 6 years that WP didnt do anything 2010 State Championship 2011 2nd round exit to Starkville that they beat in the regular 2012 North Half Championship exit to Starkville that they beat in the regular 2013 1st round exit and probably the worse defense in 20 years 33.8 ppg giving up 2014 2nd round exit to Oxford 2015 North Half Championship exit to Oxford Only 13 & 14 were bad years WP had play action plays before Morgan got there. Mike Carr was at receiver for a reason. Why would the best player be at receiver if we never threw the ball to him? But just to put a lil something out there. WP fans never wanted Morgan as HC and he wasn't supposed to be HC so what @slicklizardsaid has some truth to it. I'll leave it at that. I'm done going back and forth with you so I won't respond to anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Posted Thursday at 02:14 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:14 AM I have never paid much attention to West Point as they are not a team my team plays regularly. So all my info on them comes from here or reading various Facebook posts. And I remember that not many from WP were happy with Morgan being hired. I think most wanted another guy but I do not know name. I think it was a defensive coach. Someone posted a picture of him leaning against a tractor tire or something,! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows08 Posted Thursday at 03:14 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:14 AM 1 hour ago, wpgreenwave51 said: I really didn't cause he was the WR coach that year and had been the WR & ST coach from 09 until he got bumped up to OC when the OC left. Morgan had the pleasure of inherenting the group with Marcus Murphy, Jason Brownlee, Chris Calvert, & company which had been running the offense from 7th grade until they graduated. That group never lost a game until they got to HS so that was easy. You still talking about 5 or 6 years that WP didnt do anything 2010 State Championship 2011 2nd round exit to Starkville that they beat in the regular 2012 North Half Championship exit to Starkville that they beat in the regular 2013 1st round exit and probably the worse defense in 20 years 33.8 ppg giving up 2014 2nd round exit to Oxford 2015 North Half Championship exit to Oxford Only 13 & 14 were bad years WP had play action plays before Morgan got there. Mike Carr was at receiver for a reason. Why would the best player be at receiver if we never threw the ball to him? But just to put a lil something out there. WP fans never wanted Morgan as HC and he wasn't supposed to be HC so what @slicklizardsaid has some truth to it. I'll leave it at that. I'm done going back and forth with you so I won't respond to anything else. We will see how it goes with Burton and Co since Morgan was such a bum then I guess won’t we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicklizard Posted Thursday at 03:43 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:43 PM 12 hours ago, BoKnows08 said: We will see how it goes with Burton and Co since Morgan was such a bum then I guess won’t we? Nobody cares about this but you apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows08 Posted Thursday at 03:48 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:48 PM 4 minutes ago, slicklizard said: Nobody cares about this but you apparently I’ve made you care now @slicklizardyou will probably check the scores before me seeking self validation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicklizard Posted Thursday at 03:53 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:53 PM 1 minute ago, BoKnows08 said: I’ve made you care now @slicklizardyou will probably check the scores before me seeking self validation. I probably will check them before you but only because I'm much faster at it. Anyway that's not some gotcha . They didn't want him anymore . It's got nothing to do with what happens going forward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldogs4 Posted Friday at 11:04 AM Share Posted Friday at 11:04 AM Certainly glad to see Meridian 47, Ocean Springs 9 instead of Ocean Springs 30, Meridian 14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicklizard Posted Saturday at 04:12 AM Share Posted Saturday at 04:12 AM (edited) I got to eat some crow on Starkville and Oak Grove. To travel down there and win a game that close that showed you serious and sends a message. Matter of fact, I’m done saying how games will go for a while. Going back to the playoffs last season every game I felt reasonably sure on how the outcome would play out. I’ve been wrong. Edited Saturday at 02:22 PM by slicklizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubaction Posted Saturday at 02:13 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:13 PM 9 hours ago, slicklizard said: I got to eat some crow on Stockville and Oak Grove. To travel down there and win a game that close that showed you serious and sends a message. Matter of fact, I’m done saying how games will go for a while. Going back to the playoffs last season every game I felt reasonably sure on how the outcome would play out. I’ve been wrong. It was a decent game. OG had several chances to win it. Having the jamboree get cancelled last week certainly didn’t help and they didn’t look as good out the gate as I thought they would with so many seniors. Will be interesting to see if they bounce back against a really good Germantown team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows08 Posted Sunday at 10:34 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:34 PM (edited) On 8/29/2026 at 9:13 AM, Dubaction said: It was a decent game. OG had several chances to win it. Having the jamboree get cancelled last week certainly didn’t help and they didn’t look as good out the gate as I thought they would with so many seniors. Will be interesting to see if they bounce back against a really good Germantown team. Germantown can put up some serious point. Defensively they seem to be really bad or just plain lost the last couple of years. They gave up 52 to Warren central, 43 to Oxford, 35 to Tupelo and 42 to Desoto Central. I could see Germantown Oak Grove being a track meet. I just don’t see Germantown getting many stops and oak grove will. They’re to talented on defense up front not to. Oak Grove should win this game. If they don’t they will go home early this year. Edited Sunday at 10:41 PM by BoKnows08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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