CFB Week 9 Thread

[NoWammies]

Going to be crazy seeing the Weeks brothers in Ole Miss uniforms next year. 

[Dawg83]

Not exactly apples to apples, but this State team reminds me of watching many of the Ben Howland basketball teams at State as he was rebuilding from the Rick Ray years.. I think it’s pretty clear they are much improved and do various things well…. But man do they struggle at the little things and in crunch time.

 

Something’s gotta give sooner or later. I think it’s fair to characterize Arkansas as a must win game after the way the last two weeks ended. You simply have to give your fans something tangible in terms of progress. They are being absolutely tortured with the way State is losing these games.

 

Many said going into the year that progress may not necessarily equate to wins… I think you’re at the point now where you can’t show anymore progress until you win a game or two. It’s as simple as that. I think State fans have reached their limit in terms of accepting these “play hard but lose close in the final moments” kind of games.

[Insideradvantage]

10 hours ago, NoWammies said:

Going to be crazy seeing the Weeks brothers in Ole Miss uniforms next year. 

I’d take ‘em. 

[NoWammies]

36 minutes ago, Insideradvantage said:

I’d take ‘em. 

I’ll take them and for PJ Woodland to come on back home to MS. 

[Bulldogs4]

I know the folks that get overly emotional are jumping off a cliff right now. These three losses have been excruciating but people still need to realize we were under talented against those teams. And we still have not learned how to finish out a win. Arkansas & State are probably about equal talent wise. Obviously they will be favored with the game being there. We were actually listening to Neil & Matt at the end on the radio. And Matt talked about how difficult it is for a team to push through to a win. 
I do agree with 83 that a win over Arkansas will help calm folks down some. 
Being a State fan for over 60 years, I have experienced a number of these games…1975 Bama (had a first goal at the one yard line up 10-7 in the fourth quarter and failed to score), 1981 Bama game, 1983 Egg Bowl, 1984 Bama (WR fails to catch a game winning TD pass and we lose 24-20), 1997 Egg Bowl and on. 

[Dawg83]

2 hours ago, Bulldogs4 said:

I know the folks that get overly emotional are jumping off a cliff right now. These three losses have been excruciating but people still need to realize we were under talented against those teams. And we still have not learned how to finish out a win. Arkansas & State are probably about equal talent wise. Obviously they will be favored with the game being there. We were actually listening to Neil & Matt at the end on the radio. And Matt talked about how difficult it is for a team to push through to a win. 
I do agree with 83 that a win over Arkansas will help calm folks down some. 
Being a State fan for over 60 years, I have experienced a number of these games…1975 Bama (had a first goal at the one yard line up 10-7 in the fourth quarter and failed to score), 1981 Bama game, 1983 Egg Bowl, 1984 Bama (WR fails to catch a game winning TD pass and we lose 24-20), 1997 Egg Bowl and on. 

I think part of it is that 2023 and 2024 were so hopeless and State didn’t really even come close to winning any of the games they lost. State last year was a 2-10 team that didn’t come close to going 3-9. This year they are still losing but in a way that draws people in and feels hopeful, at least for a time. And then it has come crashing down late in these games. That messes with your emotions in a different way.

 

And the thing is, I think anyone assuming that State is just going to fold and get blown out the rest of the year are probably mistaken…. There is a very distinct possibly that State is in 3-4 more of these close games that come down to the wire. It has not been a season for the faint of heart. The hope is that at some point the script flips in your favor like it did against Arizona State and you can find a couple more wins to get to bowl eligibility.

 

Nobody wants to hear it but State absolutely has multiple winnable games remaining on their schedule. Nothing that happened against Texas or Florida changed that, in my option. I mean if anything, Arkansas and Missouri seem more winnnable than they did previously given yesterday’s results in their two games. Mizzou is a QB injury issue, Arkansas is a “gave up 33 points and lost to Hugh Freeze at home” issue.

[Bulldogs4]

And even Georgia has the makings of a competitive game. They are strong as always but they have had their share of close games this year. Hopefully our guys will keep plugging away (and I believe they will) and snag a couple of wins before the season ends. 

[Dawg83]

8 minutes ago, Bulldogs4 said:

And even Georgia has the makings of a competitive game. They are strong as always but they have had their share of close games this year. Hopefully our guys will keep plugging away (and I believe they will) and snag a couple of wins before the season ends. 

If you’ve watched a lot of State games and a lot of Georgia games this year, they are really similar, except Georgia wins them late and State loses them late.

[Dawg83]

Aaaand the LSU job is officially open.

 

Welp. This is going to be an insane carousel cycle. And we may not be done with high profile firings yet.

[Raiders 10]

State coach will be next and Kentucky

[Insideradvantage]

Who’s State gonna go after? Delta State’s coach?  

[rebmus]

That 3rd quarter was brutal, Ole Miss stepped up in the 4th to seal the game. 

 

USCe gave Bama all they wanted yesterday, Ole Miss best be ready next weekend. 

 

[rebmus]

LSU has lost to #7 and #9 on the road along with #3 at home... THAT gets Kelly fired?? 

It's a crazy world we're living in. 

[Dawg83]

42 minutes ago, Raiders 10 said:

State coach will be next and Kentucky

Lebby is safe barring something shocking. Stoops might be too, it depends on if UK gets spooked by how many openings there are this year.

 

Auburn and Oklahoma are the two big ones that could still open up, IMO. And possibly Florida State as well. Wisconsin is another.

[Dawg83]

31 minutes ago, rebmus said:

LSU has lost to #7 and #9 on the road along with #3 at home... THAT gets Kelly fired?? 

It's a crazy world we're living in. 

In his case it probably didn’t help that he’s an extremely unlikable person that seemed like a horrid fit there from Day 1.

 

When the three previous coaches all won national titles within 4 years, and in his year 4 his best bowl showing was about to be the Citrus Bowl (with no NY6, no Playoff, and no SEC championships)…. For a program like LSU where the expectations are so high and resources very vast, I get it a little more than other firings.

[Raiders 10]

21 minutes ago, Dawg83 said:

Lebby is safe barring something shocking. Stoops might be too, it depends on if UK gets spooked by how many openings there are this year.

 

Auburn and Oklahoma are the two big ones that could still open up, IMO. And possibly Florida State as well. Wisconsin is another.

Wisconsin coach should be next they're really bad and not competitive keep getting blow out and their respected their coaches. you might be right about Lebby safe if he lose to Ark he gotta go and Auburn and Oklahoma I agree with them 2 teams might fire their coach next.

[Raiders 10]

if Kentucky serious about fire Stoops he would have been already got a pink slip and headed out the door.

[Bulldogs4]

Firing Kelly is ridiculous. $54 million would fund NIL for two-three years. 
And I will say it again. The days of guaranteed long term Coaching deals are over. 
Why tie up all that money when the guy is going to get fired after 2-3 years. Stupid is as stupid does. 

[Bulldogs4]

Lebby is in good shape. Emotions just need to settle down some. This mentality of discarding coaches after a single loss or even a win is just mind boggling. 
And we might see coaches staying put rather than jumping from the frying pan into the fire. 
If I have a good gig, why I am I going to leave that for FL or LSU where I going to be set up for failure. 

[Dawg83]

Can’t help but wonder if all the openings are gonna buy some coaches more time that may have otherwise gotten fired.

 

Additionally, schools like Arkansas, VA Tech, and UCLA that fired their coach super early…. I’m not saying they regret their decision, but the marketplace is insanely crowded now after they were in a hurry to jump into it first. And none of them are close to the best jobs out there.

[NoWammies]

Tulane going to be open once LSU hires Jon Sumrall. Going to be him or Joe Brady. 

[Dawg83]

1 hour ago, NoWammies said:

Tulane going to be open once LSU hires Jon Sumrall. Going to be him or Joe Brady. 

I don’t think Brady is coming back to college. He’s a future NFL head coach and has mostly been an NFL guy except for the one famous year he had at LSU.

 

I like Sumrall and think he’s going to be a very good SEC coach one day. I am also not sure how if you are LSU’s AD you sell THAT fan base on firing guy with a 34-14 record just to go hire the guy who’s spent most of the last 12 years at Troy and Tulane.

 

Maybe I’m wrong but I have long assumed Sumrall’s next move would be to Kentucky as Stoops’ successor.

Edited October 27, 2025 by Dawg83

[Vott]

11 hours ago, Bulldogs4 said:

Firing Kelly is ridiculous. $54 million would fund NIL for two-three years. 
And I will say it again. The days of guaranteed long term Coaching deals are over. 
Why tie up all that money when the guy is going to get fired after 2-3 years. Stupid is as stupid does. 

I know making multi millions of dollars is life changing money but I would not want to coach at a big time major program with the way coaches are being let go. Only a few years ago I thought David Cutcliffe had the best football job in the nation because he could go 8-4 at Duke every year and had job security for as long as he wanted to be there. Anything better than that was just him being able to play with house money. I know Huff will probably not be at Southern Miss in Ill say 2027 if he repeats what he has done this season, but if he is living comfortably and is happy in Hattiesburg he could go 8-4 at So Miss go to a bowl every year and So Miss would build him a statue

[Former Coach]

If you asked any State fan before the first game what our record would be after 8 games, 99% would have said 4-4 at best. It sounds crazy  but Miss. State is a good football team that as someone said earlier has to take the next step and figure out how to win. They are 4-5 plays away from being 7-1 and ranked inside the top 10. It's amazing to me the success they are having on the offensive side with possibly the worst offensive line in the SEC. The numbers they put up on the third ranked defense in the nation on Saturday were impressive. And look at the defense and how they have played this year. I don't think there is a State fan anywhere that didn't want Hutzler fired. They played their tails off but in the end it was still a loss. Lebby and staff along with the  players have to figure hot how to get over the top. 

 

As far as firing Lebby, absolutely not. He has done a remarkable job turning over a roster that was probably worse than Mullen inherited from Croom. I said when he was hired it would be a three-four  year process. I don't think he is any danger of losing his job but if it were to happen it would be detrimental to the program. Arky and Mizzu are winnable games. Both will be tough on the road. And who knows the Friday after Thanksgiving.

[Former Coach]

On 10/25/2025 at 9:35 PM, Dawg83 said:

Look I have no Idea if Lane Kiffin is leaving Ole Miss or not.

 

But I have been wondering for a week or two if all the discussion about “would he go to Florida” is maybe the wrong job to be worrying about.

 

Because whatever you think about Florida may be a moot point if LSU is about to cut in front of them in the line to talk to Kiffin.

I don' think Kiffin is going anywhere. They are pretty much a lock for a playoff spot which keeps him at OM into January. Florida and LSU aren't waiting until January to hire a football coach with signing day mid December and the portal opening early January. The only way I see him leaving is if they somehow lose a couple games and miss the playoffs and he thinks he has reached his ceiling at OM.