Tim Tebo Act

[Rebel Bert]

If your going to home school your kids then go ahead and create a Christian School like Laurel. If ya have enough kids then play MAIS. I figure most home schoolers wake up late and go to bed whenever. There gas to be discipline and organizing of taking these classes. I do wonder how many actually learn especially the higher math's and sciences required for college. I say most don't go to college. They might have to do a little farming with dad if in rural areas. 

[MSSportsGuy]

I have some friends who are very vocal in support of this act and I've tried to consider both sides. I see the argument for allowing this but I also don't think it's should happen.

 

Families who choose to homeschool have made the conscious decision to not participate in the public education system. I have no issues with this and have personally experienced many home schooled students who are intelligent, successful and very well adjusted despite the stereotypes. Part of opting out of the system means their students are not subject to the same curriculum, school day length, number of credits to be earned so they should not get the same benefits offered to public school students. This would include eating in the caffeteria, accessing the library, school computers for use, textbooks for what classes still use them, and yes athletics. 

 

My wife and I have no children who are school aged anymore yet we still pay school taxes and do not get any direct benefits of this. We all pay taxes in some shape or form for services we don't use or access. That's fine. This isn't an anti tax argument nor am I opposed to home schooling. I just believe people who choose not to participate in a system shouldn't get the benefits of it. 

[Chunky6617]

9 minutes ago, MSSportsGuy said:

I have some friends who are very vocal in support of this act and I've tried to consider both sides. I see the argument for allowing this but I also don't think it's should happen.

 

Families who choose to homeschool have made the conscious decision to not participate in the public education system. I have no issues with this and have personally experienced many home schooled students who are intelligent, successful and very well adjusted despite the stereotypes. Part of opting out of the system means their students are not subject to the same curriculum, school day length, number of credits to be earned so they should not get the same benefits offered to public school students. This would include eating in the caffeteria, accessing the library, school computers for use, textbooks for what classes still use them, and yes athletics. 

 

My wife and I have no children who are school aged anymore yet we still pay school taxes and do not get any direct benefits of this. We all pay taxes in some shape or form for services we don't use or access. That's fine. This isn't an anti tax argument nor am I opposed to home schooling. I just believe people who choose not to participate in a system shouldn't get the benefits of it. 

But at the same time you acknowledge that their tax dollars do go towards that same system, so therefore they should be able to get some of the benefits of it. 

[MSSportsGuy]

2 minutes ago, Chunky6617 said:

But at the same time you acknowledge that their tax dollars do go towards that same system, so therefore they should be able to get some of the benefits of it. 

Yes they pay taxes to the system but they've chosen not to actively participate in it. That's their decision but by not participating, you shouldn't expect to get to pick and choose what elements you take part in verses what you don't.

[Chunky6617]

54 minutes ago, MSSportsGuy said:

Yes they pay taxes to the system but they've chosen not to actively participate in it. That's their decision but by not participating, you shouldn't expect to get to pick and choose what elements you take part in verses what you don't.

No, they didn’t choose to not actively participate in it. They chose not to participate in the curriculum part of it. And they didn’t get a say so if their tax dollars went towards it or not, it was taken from them regardless. So they at least are choosing to participate in some parts of it, since their tax dollars are helping fund it. If they didn’t pay anything towards it at all, you would have an argument. But they pay just as much as you do, and are only accessing part of it while you access all of it. 

[pancho]

On 2/8/2025 at 10:46 AM, Rebel Bert said:

If your going to home school your kids then go ahead and create a Christian School like Laurel. If ya have enough kids then play MAIS. I figure most home schoolers wake up late and go to bed whenever. There gas to be discipline and organizing of taking these classes. I do wonder how many actually learn especially the higher math's and sciences required for college. I say most don't go to college. They might have to do a little farming with dad if in rural areas. 

I know several kids who are now in college and out of college who were home schooled.  They are some of the most disciplined humans I have ever met.

[Rebel Bert]

I wonder that most homeschoolers are not athletes. But if she wants run track or he wants to play baseball I am ok with it. I think most football coaches may not be interested in this.

[MSSportsGuy]

20 hours ago, Chunky6617 said:

No, they didn’t choose to not actively participate in it. They chose not to participate in the curriculum part of it. And they didn’t get a say so if their tax dollars went towards it or not, it was taken from them regardless. So they at least are choosing to participate in some parts of it, since their tax dollars are helping fund it. If they didn’t pay anything towards it at all, you would have an argument. But they pay just as much as you do, and are only accessing part of it while you access all of it. 

It's clear we are on different sides of the issue and that's fine. I won't be upset if it passes but I don't think it should, just my two cents.

Families who homeschool are definitely choosing not to participate in other aspects of the system besides curriculum. Schools operate on a school calendar of 180 days and at least until the upper high school years are in school from around 8 am until 2:30/3 pm. Homeschoolers hypothetically start the day at any time, end it when they choose, and have classes whenever they want. If the family opts to go to Walmart in the middle of the day, they can. If they decide to not have science class one day, they can. 

 

No one gets much of a choice in where their tax money goes. My kids are grown but I can't just say I shouldn't pay school taxes anymore. We all pay taxes for plenty of things we don't utilize and barely have input over. My point is tax money goes to support a system homeschoolers have the right to participate in just like those in private schools. If they don't, that's their business. That does not mean they should be able to access elements of their choosing like athletics. It's having your cake and eating it too. 

 

Again, just my two cents and it's not a cause I plan to vocally protest with the legislature. 

[Rebel Bert]

Passed the house on Monday 

[Football In MS]

Recruiting about to get WILD! Especially if talented athletes decide they’re “homeschooled” so they don’t have to go to class or be beholden to school rules. #messy

[s1nglewing]

46 minutes ago, Football In MS said:

Recruiting about to get WILD! Especially if talented athletes decide they’re “homeschooled” so they don’t have to go to class or be beholden to school rules. #messy

Don't think it's gonna work like that

[pancho]

I figure they'll be a few who subtly make it work for athletic reasons. 

[Rebel Bert]

Surely input from principal and coaches as to what courses, etc a home schooled kid needs to do unordered to play. Some will welcome with open arms. Some will say no we don't want you unless your in school.

[pancho]

better not have them take the same tests cuz the home schoolers do better academically

[Bulldog 71]

In Alabama, where I work for a school district.  Homeschool students that enroll to participate in sports take 1 PE class.  They do not participate in state testing since they do not take academic classes.

 

They can "transfer" to an out of zone (same district) or out of district school (one time only), but there are some processes/procedures they must meet..  You can look up that information on the Alabama High School Athletic Association's website in their handbook.

 

"That's all I got to say about that."  Forrest Gump

[coastball]

The MHSAA doesn't enforce any of their current rules so this will be another area that is violated by schools without consequences. Recruiting and transferring will be more rampant. I would love to see the MHSAA create and enforcement branch of their association that actively investigates and checks in on schools. Either do that or do away with the "rule" if they will not be enforced. Just my sentiments

[Rebel Bert]

On 2/12/2025 at 11:25 PM, Football In MS said:

Recruiting about to get WILD! Especially if talented athletes decide they’re “homeschooled” so they don’t have to go to class or be beholden to school rules. #messy

No u have to attend the public school where you reside, adhere to its curriculum, and to some degree the coach can require full attendance. Otherwise you could be failing not legal to play. We will see how many schools are reported for playing students with failing grades. Dropouts usually have bad grades. 

[s1nglewing]

Here is a summary of what is included in the Bill: https://www.mississippifirst.org/blog/house-bill-1617-tim-tebow-act

[Rebel Bert]

7 hours ago, s1nglewing said:

Here is a summary of what is included in the Bill: https://www.mississippifirst.org/blog/house-bill-1617-tim-tebow-act

Will they be counted on Reclassification?

[Football In MS]

On 2/14/2025 at 8:45 AM, Rebel Bert said:

No u have to attend the public school where you reside, adhere to its curriculum, and to some degree the coach can require full attendance. Otherwise you could be failing not legal to play. We will see how many schools are reported for playing students with failing grades. Dropouts usually have bad grades. 

But what about private schools who are MHSAA. Those schools could accept a “homeschool” student for athletics only. 

[Rebel Bert]

1 hour ago, Football In MS said:

But what about private schools who are MHSAA. Those schools could accept a “homeschool” student for athletics only. 

MHSAA will probably discuss this and make decision on this bill.

[FanofMSfootball]

On 2/6/2025 at 4:23 PM, pancho said:

not the parents or the kids fault the admins and teachers are less than competent.  

student success in a school is much less about admin and teachers than home life and socioeconomics. 

The people that think School A has all good teachers and School B has all bad teachers is why that school fails and this one doesn't is actually shortsighted and disingenous. 

[FanofMSfootball]

On 2/16/2025 at 9:38 PM, Rebel Bert said:

MHSAA will probably discuss this and make decision on this bill.

They are already telling schools to prepare for this and the other rule too. Both will probably pass along with school choice. So some schools will definitely lose and some will win. 

[Football In MS]

On 2/16/2025 at 9:38 PM, Rebel Bert said:

MHSAA will probably discuss this and make decision on this bill.

It’ll be interesting to see how the MHSAA plans to monitor the schools with regard to them being able to claim they’re “at capacity” for some students and willing to accept others who are excellent athletes.

 

Honestly it sounds like a recipe for disaster and a HUGE can of worms opened. We’re about to get NIL type issues at the high school level with kids being able to choose whatever school they want even if they don’t live in the right district 

[pancho]

probably be similar to the cruitin schools that we already have now.