Running the football

[Arashatora]

I prefer Little Wing

[MadisonReb10]

On 12/4/2022 at 11:01 AM, Merlin said:

I agree.  My biggest complaint with the spread that’s ram at west jones is that it’s very predictable when we are going to run out it and it’s not very difficult to stop once we do.  Requires a rb with great vision and ability to break at least 1-2 tackles to gain anything at all.  And we have only had that type of rb a handful of years in the last 20. And times we do have they tend to spend more time at lb than rb. This is a very big part of the reason we tailed off the end of 2021 and this year.  If we had a rb this year we knock out picayune in 2nd round. 

Honestly sounds like an OL issue as much as a RB issue. College teams will run shotgun from the one yard line to hand it off and have more success than going under center.

[Merlin]

On 12/4/2022 at 12:54 PM, Tiburon said:

alas, you ran into a running team with a defense. 

 

More to do with our offensive issues than your defense. Laurel and Hattiesburg’s defense was as good as yours.  Ours was better. 
 

Not saying Picayunes defense was bad or even average.  It was very good. But there were 2 other as good and 1 better in the south 5A. And all 3 of the other teams with defense had offensive issues. Picayune was overall more balanced. 

Edited December 8, 2022 by Merlin

[Tiburon]

Well we can agree to disagree on that. imho Picayune had the much better defense and it was obvious.

 

Laurel gave up 298 pts in 12 games (24.8 points/g)

HHS gave up 239 pts in 12 games (19.9 points / g)

Picayune gave up 175 in 15 games (11.6 points/g)

 

Not a lot of common opponents, but HHS gave up 41 to Vancleave who Picayune allowed 7,

and Laurel gave up 42 to D'Iberville who Picayune also allowed 7 to.

 

seems fairly obvious.

 

You are entitled to your opinion, but to me it's like everyone else we beat. It was never our defense but their coach or their "offensive issues". To me WJ offensive issue = Picayune's defense.  Exactly the same offensive issue West Point had.

[maroontide06]

5 hours ago, Merlin said:

More to do with our offensive issues than your defense. Laurel and Hattiesburg’s defense was as good as yours.  Ours was better. 
 

Not saying Picayunes defense was bad or even average.  It was very good. But there were 2 other as good and 1 better in the south 5A. And all 3 of the other teams with defense had offensive issues. Picayune was overall more balanced. 

C'mon Merlin.  All that wizardry has got you lulled into a spell LOL!

[Cards1968]

17 hours ago, Tiburon said:

Exactly the same offensive issue West Point had.

There was 1 team that West Point couldn't dictate the game on the ground against and that was Picayune.  There were teams that bent but didn't break for the most part, Louisville and Vicksburg are the two I saw in person (didn't go to Starkville), but the only defense that really shut down the run game was Picayune.  Remember, West Point's first two scores were long pass plays in the championship game.  The 2nd half TD was a ground and pound type of drive but by then the West Point defense was even more tired than the Picayune defense so it couldn't be capitalized on.

 

I will say this however, the best team I saw this year in person was Louisville.  It was early in the season, but they sure had it all together at least on that night.  Picayune had better backs obviously, but grading the entire team Louisville was more impressive to me.

[Vott]

2 minutes ago, Raiderguy said:

As an offense, I can't stand watching the wing T or Double Wing, however, some schools have made their mark with it.  I prefer a spread offense(understand there are many types of spread offenses) with a situational power package

I dont know how old you are, but are you old enough to remember the old wishbone offense?

[maroontide06]

25 minutes ago, Vott said:

I dont know how old you are, but are you old enough to remember the old wishbone offense?

Emory Bellard was the inventor of the wishbone.  He ran it under Darrell Royal at Texas and then we he became the Head Coach at Mississippi State he kind of reinvented it again with the Wingbone.

[Rebel Bert]

18 hours ago, maroontide06 said:

Emory Bellard was the inventor of the wishbone.  He ran it under Darrell Royal at Texas and then we he became the Head Coach at Mississippi State he kind of reinvented it again with the Wingbone.

Coach is going to run his offense. If you don't have the tall lanky receivers u better be able to rum. To run you need a good OL.

[primetime23]

On 12/8/2022 at 12:17 PM, Tiburon said:

Well we can agree to disagree on that. imho Picayune had the much better defense and it was obvious.

 

Laurel gave up 298 pts in 12 games (24.8 points/g)

HHS gave up 239 pts in 12 games (19.9 points / g)

Picayune gave up 175 in 15 games (11.6 points/g)

 

Not a lot of common opponents, but HHS gave up 41 to Vancleave who Picayune allowed 7,

and Laurel gave up 42 to D'Iberville who Picayune also allowed 7 to.

 

seems fairly obvious.

 

You are entitled to your opinion, but to me it's like everyone else we beat. It was never our defense but their coach or their "offensive issues". To me WJ offensive issue = Picayune's defense.  Exactly the same offensive issue West Point had.