7 Classifications

[Dubaction]

From a football standpoint…..It just hit me how disgustingly weak 6A north would be if this happens. 

[coastfootballfanman]

4 minutes ago, Dubaction said:

From a football standpoint…..It just hit me how disgustingly weak 6A north would be if this happens. 

Yeah 6A north would not be that great. You would have Panola, Olive Branch, Lake Cormorant, Neshoba as you contenders most likely. Possibly Pearl if they were to move them north. 

[Vott]

2 hours ago, Dubaction said:

From a football standpoint…..It just hit me how disgustingly weak 6A north would be if this happens. 

Check out what region 4 6a would be like. Geesh

[coastfootballfanman]

10 minutes ago, Vott said:

Check out what region 4 6a would be like. Geesh

Yeah outside of George County, Pascagoula and Gautier (until Irving leaves) it is not very good. Will be a solid baseball region though. 

[Vott]

6 minutes ago, coastfootballfanman said:

Yeah outside of George County, Pascagoula and Gautier (until Irving leaves) it is not very good. Will be a solid baseball region though. 

You never know what kind of team Goula will have. They can go from 3-8 to 9-2 playing for south state and the following year go 2-9. But those 3 are the best if this goes thru. That would really give West Harrison and Long Beach an outside shot at a playoff berth. With no Wayne County Laurel or Picayune, 6a south would kinda be watered down. Petal West Jones and Hattiesburg would seem to be the strongest teams along with George Co 

[coastfootballfanman]

11 minutes ago, Vott said:

You never know what kind of team Goula will have. They can go from 3-8 to 9-2 playing for south state and the following year go 2-9. But those 3 are the best if this goes thru. That would really give West Harrison and Long Beach an outside shot at a playoff berth. With no Wayne County Laurel or Picayune, 6a south would kinda be watered down. Petal West Jones and Hattiesburg would seem to be the strongest teams along with George Co 

I think Pascagoula has a complex with 6A or something. Their 3 losing seasons and worst years in the past decade all have come at 6A. 5A, they have consistently been in the hunt and competing. What they do with Pearl will be interesting. Putting them in the south bolsters a solid south half in my opinion. I think they would be your favorites right out the gate. Petal is still a mystery to me with a new coach. Although they did just pick up the QB from Biloxi who is supposed to be good. Throw in west Jones, George county, Hattiesburg, Pascagoula and you’ve something similar to what south 5A has been the past few years in my opinion. 

Edited February 5, 2022 by coastfootballfanman

[ccbulldog]

The only way I would be in favor of this is if the 7A champ will play the 6A champ in an end of season Miss. High Sch super bowl to determine the best team in the state. I guess in some years the 5A champ my have a legitimate claim but unfortunately that would just be too bad. I mean would you really want to call yourself a champion when you really are only the best of 24 teams. That is such a hollow claim in my opinion. 

[Rebel Bert]

Based on 8-11 grades for 21-22 school year:

7A--1: DeSoto Central l, Hernando, Horn Lake, Lewisburg, Oxford, Southaven 

7A--2: Clinton, Germantown, Madison Central, Murrah, Starkville, Tupelo 

7A--3: Brandon, Meridian, NW Rankin, Oak Grove, Pearl, Petal

7A--4: Biloxi, Gulfport, Hancock, Harrison Central, Ocean Springs, St Martin 

6A--1: Center Hill, Grenada, Lake Cormorant, Olive Branch, Saltillo, South Panola 

6A--2: Columbus, Greenville, Jim Hill, Neshoba Central, Ridgeland, Warren Central 

6A--3: Forrest Hill, Hattiesburg, PRC, Picayune, Terry,  West Jones

6A--4: D'Iberville, Gautier, George County, West Harrison, Long Beach, Pascagoula 

5A--1: Caledonia, Clarksdale, Cleveland Central, Lafayette County, Pontotoc, West Point 

5A--2: Calloway, Canton, Gentry, Holmes County Central, New Hope, Vicksburg 

5A--3: Brookhaven, Florence, Natchez, North Pike, Provine, Wingfield 

5A--4: East Central, Laurel, South Jones, Stone County, Vancleave, Wayne County 

 

[coastfootballfanman]

17 minutes ago, Rebel Bert said:

Based on 8-11 grades for 21-22 school year:

7A--1: DeSoto Central l, Hernando, Horn Lake, Lewisburg, Oxford, Southaven 

7A--2: Clinton, Germantown, Madison Central, Murrah, Starkville, Tupelo 

7A--3: Brandon, Meridian, NW Rankin, Oak Grove, Pearl, Petal

7A--4: Biloxi, Gulfport, Hancock, Harrison Central, Ocean Springs, St Martin 

6A--1: Center Hill, Grenada, Lake Cormorant, Olive Branch, Saltillo, South Panola 

6A--2: Columbus, Greenville, Jim Hill, Neshoba Central, Ridgeland, Warren Central 

6A--3: Forrest Hill, Hattiesburg, PRC, Picayune, Terry,  West Jones

6A--4: D'Iberville, Gautier, George County, West Harrison, Long Beach, Pascagoula 

5A--1: Caledonia, Clarksdale, Cleveland Central, Lafayette County, Pontotoc, West Point 

5A--2: Calloway, Canton, Gentry, Holmes County Central, New Hope, Vicksburg 

5A--3: Brookhaven, Florence, Natchez, North Pike, Provine, Wingfield 

5A--4: East Central, Laurel, South Jones, Stone County, Vancleave, Wayne County 

 

Numbers would be based on 9-12 for 2021-2022 though I believe. Because that is what the school population is at that time. 

[Dubaction]

Since when do they use 8-11?? Lol 

[Dubaction]

1 hour ago, ccbulldog said:

The only way I would be in favor of this is if the 7A champ will play the 6A champ in an end of season Miss. High Sch super bowl to determine the best team in the state. I guess in some years the 5A champ my have a legitimate claim but unfortunately that would just be too bad. I mean would you really want to call yourself a champion when you really are only the best of 24 teams. That is such a hollow claim in my opinion. 

Are you kidding me? You win 7A with these teams you’re gonna have to be pretty damn good to do it. It’s really no different from how it’s always been for the bigger schools. Idk why people are acting like this is such a huge change for the big boys. It’s not. 

[Rebel Bert]

23 minutes ago, Dubaction said:

Since when do they use 8-11?? Lol 

8-11 this year will become next year's 9-12. I may very well go back and look at this year's numbers 9-12 to see for sure. However word was a proposal was going to be introduced to use only 9-11. 

[Rebel Bert]

26 minutes ago, Dubaction said:

Since when do they use 8-11?? Lol 

I used 8-11 which will be next year's 9-12 on October 1 2022. It's my understanding they may use just 9-11. If so I should use 8-11. Let's see the final proposal furst.

[Rebel Bert]

NE Mississippi Daily Journal says reclassification will not take place until 2023-24 school year. It goes on to state the vote was tabled till April to allow for director to work out the districts as to how they will look. I am guessing he will have to request those October numbers for this school year 21-22 to be accurate or use the old ones.

[coastfootballfanman]

3 hours ago, Rebel Bert said:

NE Mississippi Daily Journal says reclassification will not take place until 2023-24 school year. It goes on to state the vote was tabled till April to allow for director to work out the districts as to how they will look. I am guessing he will have to request those October numbers for this school year 21-22 to be accurate or use the old ones.

That article was written Thursday after Brandon Shields broke MHSAA was proposing 7 classes. Tyler Cleveland released article yesterday quoting MHSAA Director so I would personally put more stake in his article regarding that. 

[Rebel Bert]

2 hours ago, coastfootballfanman said:

That article was written Thursday after Brandon Shields broke MHSAA was proposing 7 classes. Tyler Cleveland released article yesterday quoting MHSAA Director so I would personally put more stake in his article regarding that. 

Sometimes they spin these stories the way they want you to read them. Either way director has to I am sure present a final draft for the vote. I think some schools will still travel either way they go.

[Rebel Bert]

Clarion Ledger says they will use last year's numbers to see where everyone falls under the 7 class plan. It will not go in to affect until 23-24 school year if passed. 

[coastfootballfanman]

9 minutes ago, Rebel Bert said:

Clarion Ledger says they will use last year's numbers to see where everyone falls under the 7 class plan. It will not go in to affect until 23-24 school year if passed. 

So why use last years numbers if it is not going to occur until then? That makes no sense to me. 

[coastfootballfanman]

12 minutes ago, Rebel Bert said:

Clarion Ledger says they will use last year's numbers to see where everyone falls under the 7 class plan. It will not go in to affect until 23-24 school year if passed. 

That article was published Thursday before Tyler Cleveland’s SBlive report on Friday. It also says “could be” put in for 2023-2025 reclassification. Lot of speculation there. I just do not see Tyler Cleveland writing that article and quoting MHSAA director and it not be true. Media reports are somewhat unreliable at times though I know. 

[Rebel Bert]

53 minutes ago, coastfootballfanman said:

That article was published Thursday before Tyler Cleveland’s SBlive report on Friday. It also says “could be” put in for 2023-2025 reclassification. Lot of speculation there. I just do not see Tyler Cleveland writing that article and quoting MHSAA director and it not be true. Media reports are somewhat unreliable at times though I know. 

I just think they want to see the regions as to how they payout. They have to know there will be travel in regions. It may be less travel for some and first time travel for others pending the coast and DeSoto County numbers. They may go with it now or wait who knows. 

[ccbulldog]

don't a lot of teams already have difficulty scheduling OOC opponents?  If this goes thru they will have to find 6.

Edited February 5, 2022 by ccbulldog

[coastfootballfanman]

1 minute ago, ccbulldog said:

don't a lot of teams already have difficulty you will have to find 6 scheduling OOC opponents?  If this goes thru they will have to find 6.

I posed this very question/though and the rebuttal to that I was told is that teams can schedule more geographically close games with teams in their area, allow for classic games and fit in out of state opponents if a team wants. 

[msaisbandkid]

2 hours ago, ccbulldog said:

don't a lot of teams already have difficulty scheduling OOC opponents?  If this goes thru they will have to find 6.

Not if you have teams close to you, teams that want to play you, or money for to play teams to play you. Those categories should fill out the schedule.

[Rebel Bert]

4 hours ago, msaisbandkid said:

Not if you have teams close to you, teams that want to play you, or money for to play teams to play you. Those categories should fill out the schedule.

Your always going to coach x that won't play coach y because he's looking for a win not to get blown. Your always going to have that always will.

[EnterpriseBulldogsFan]

Moving to seven classes should happen in 2023; as for Simpson Co.; with consolidation of 4A Mendenhall and 3A Magee obviously Simpson Co will be high end 5A/low end 6A;  if consolidation happens in 2024 just drop Simpson Co in 5a or 6a.