Enterprise could be the first school to win state titles in three different classes

[EnterpriseBulldogsFan]

1 hour ago, Rebel Bert said:

If you don't win it all in 22 you may have to wait till 25. I am Predicting your going back to 2A. 

Enterprise will not drop back to 2A especially if MHSAA goes to seven classes. Too much growth and too many people moving to Enterprise.

[doyouevencoachbro]

16 minutes ago, EnterpriseBulldogsFan said:

Enterprise will not drop back to 2A especially if MHSAA goes to seven classes. Too much growth and too many people moving to Enterprise.

 

I will agree with this a lot of people are moving their kids to the area because of how well the school is doing academically.  Credit to Weathers and Brannan.  

[Rebel Bert]

10 minutes ago, doyouevencoachbro said:

 

I will agree with this a lot of people are moving their kids to the area because of how well the school is doing academically.  Credit to Weathers and Brannan.  

I did some research and the 2021-22 numbers indicate a drop to 2A subject to change. Better be over 310 in 7th-10th grade this year 

[FBdude]

1 hour ago, Rebel Bert said:

I did some research and the 2021-22 numbers indicate a drop to 2A subject to change. Better be over 310 in 7th-10th grade this year 

Enterprise and Clarkdale will continue to grow while, Quitman, Meridian, and SEL shrink.

[Rebel Bert]

4 hours ago, FBdude said:

Enterprise and Clarkdale will continue to grow while, Quitman, Meridian, and SEL shrink.

From the numbers I am reading SEL is up, Clarkdale and Enterprise  will be near the 2A/3A cut off

[FBdude]

11 hours ago, Rebel Bert said:

From the numbers I am reading SEL is up, Clarkdale and Enterprise  will be near the 2A/3A cut off

Where are you getting numbers when they don’t recount but every other year? 

[EnterpriseBulldogsFan]

2 hours ago, FBdude said:

Where are you getting numbers when they don’t recount but every other year? 

Thats right you have to go with the fall 2022 numbers the enrollment numbers for reclassification are not out yet.

[Rebel Bert]

8 minutes ago, EnterpriseBulldogsFan said:

Thats right you have to go with the fall 2022 numbers the enrollment numbers for reclassification are not out yet.

MDE 2021-22 8th-11th grade puts Enterprise at 300. If St Patrick and St Andrew's continues as independent then I think Enterprise goes back up to 3A. Clarkdale was at 294 and will be 2A.

[coachfball87]

On 1/12/2022 at 3:58 PM, s1nglewing said:

 

So was Hattiesburg's... different playoff era, but a playoff determined championship nonetheless.

 

http://www.ahsfhs.org/mississippi/Teams/gamesbyyear.asp?Team=Hattiesburg&Year=1924

This is more like Ole Miss talking about 1950s. Did not actually WIN one, but claim to have because they had a great year. There were no actual football state champs until 1981. 

[Rebel Bert]

10 minutes ago, coachfball87 said:

This is more like Ole Miss talking about 1950s. Did not actually WIN one, but claim to have because they had a great year. There were no actual football state champs until 1981. 

Ole Miss won 3 although they were not AP. You take it or cry

[s1nglewing]

1 hour ago, coachfball87 said:

This is more like Ole Miss talking about 1950s. Did not actually WIN one, but claim to have because they had a great year. There were no actual football state champs until 1981. 

 

Mississippi had actual playoffs and actual state champions from 1923 - 1930 and again in 1948 & 49... and 1981 to present as well.

[Rebel Bert]

8 hours ago, FBdude said:

Where are you getting numbers when they don’t recount but every other year? 

MDE counts every year

[Rebel Bert]

Google Mississippi Dept of education 

click on the 3 bars

click on reports and data

click on school data

click on enrollment 

click on year, race, record including grades,

click on district then school

click on 1 of 2 at the bottom

click on the blue and get numbers

[coachfball87]

1 hour ago, s1nglewing said:

 

Mississippi had actual playoffs and actual state champions from 1923 - 1930 and again in 1948 & 49... and 1981 to present as well.

Bowl games.

[msaisbandkid]

9 minutes ago, coachfball87 said:

Bowl games.

No they were championship games. There were many different conferences and bowl games during the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s. There actually were playoffs during the 20s before everyone broke off into the different conferences.

[s1nglewing]

http://www.ahsfhs.org/mississippi/articles2020/1929playoffs.asp

http://www.ahsfhs.org/mississippi/articles2020/1930playoffs.asp

http://www.ahsfhs.org/mississippi/articles2020/1948-49playoffs.asp

 

State Playoffs.

State Championships.

Not bowl games.

 

The initial championship series was discontinued after an enormous fight that occurred pitting teams and spectators against each other in 1930.

The 1948 & 49 playoffs even had teams classified as AA, A, BB, & B based on school enrollment exactly like 1981 when the playoff format resumed.

The 48/49 championship series was discontinued because the Big 8 schools, which comprised the AA classification, refused to participate.

[coachfball87]

1 hour ago, s1nglewing said:

http://www.ahsfhs.org/mississippi/articles2020/1929playoffs.asp

http://www.ahsfhs.org/mississippi/articles2020/1930playoffs.asp

http://www.ahsfhs.org/mississippi/articles2020/1948-49playoffs.asp

 

State Playoffs.

State Championships.

Not bowl games.

 

The initial championship series was discontinued after an enormous fight that occurred pitting teams and spectators against each other in 1930.

The 1948 & 49 playoffs even had teams classified as AA, A, BB, & B based on school enrollment exactly like 1981 when the playoff format resumed.

The 48/49 championship series was discontinued because the Big 8 schools, which comprised to AA classification, refused to participate.

Well I stand corrected and learned something new. All my grandfather told me was back then it was bowl games, and usually the bigger schools were “considered” champs if they their bowl. 

[Bulldogs4]

From the 1920’s to 1981, the Big 8 champion was considered the State Champion much like the AP poll crowned a college champion from 1936 until the BCS/playoff era. 
 

Now a lot of controversy exists because some teams claim they were the best team in a given year. But the Big 8 was the only state wide conference with teams stretching from Corinth to the Gulf Coast. The conference also had the largest schools in the state so naturally it follows that the team that won the Big 8 was the best team. Yes occasionally another team was possibly better but 9 out of 10 years the Big 8 champion was the #1 team in the State. 
 

 

Now on a different subject, Enterprise academics are overstated because they have done a great job at teaching kids how to do well on the State tests. Unfortunately, a lot of their graduates struggle in college because they are ill prepared for the rigors of college academics.  
 

Quitman actually does a better job of teaching the nuts and bolts of learning to their students despite the fact that they are a lower rated school. I would say more of their students are better prepared for college even if the school is lower rated. 

[s1nglewing]

1927 Big 8 Champ Biloxi lost in the State Championship game to Philadelphia. After that Big 8 Champs declined further participation in the state championship playoffs for fear of being embarrassed again. Although some Big 8 teams did participate in the playoffs, none won.

After Jackson St. Joe defeated Murrah in the 1972 Capitol Bowl, Big 8 Conference schools refused to play non-Big 8 schools in bowls.

 

This past season clearly showed that the size of the school does not dictate which football team is the best.

 

 

[msaisbandkid]

28 minutes ago, s1nglewing said:

1927 Big 8 Champ Biloxi lost in the State Championship game to Philadelphia. After that Big 8 Champs declined further participation in the state championship playoffs for fear of being embarrassed again. Although some Big 8 teams did participate in the playoffs, none won.

After Jackson St. Joe defeated Murrah in the 1972 Capitol Bowl, Big 8 Conference schools refused to play non-Big 8 schools in bowls.

 

This past season clearly showed that the size of the school does not dictate which football team is the best.

 

 

Just the recruits

[FBdude]

11 hours ago, Bulldogs4 said:

From the 1920’s to 1981, the Big 8 champion was considered the State Champion much like the AP poll crowned a college champion from 1936 until the BCS/playoff era. 
 

Now a lot of controversy exists because some teams claim they were the best team in a given year. But the Big 8 was the only state wide conference with teams stretching from Corinth to the Gulf Coast. The conference also had the largest schools in the state so naturally it follows that the team that won the Big 8 was the best team. Yes occasionally another team was possibly better but 9 out of 10 years the Big 8 champion was the #1 team in the State. 
 

 

Now on a different subject, Enterprise academics are overstated because they have done a great job at teaching kids how to do well on the State tests. Unfortunately, a lot of their graduates struggle in college because they are ill prepared for the rigors of college academics.  
 

Quitman actually does a better job of teaching the nuts and bolts of learning to their students despite the fact that they are a lower rated school. I would say more of their students are better prepared for college even if the school is lower rated. 

Most young men from enterprise go and work with their hands for a living and make money instead of drown in student debt. 

[msaisbandkid]

38 minutes ago, FBdude said:

Most young men from enterprise go and work with their hands for a living and make money instead of drown in student debt. 

Thats pretty bold to say. Can someone who is actually from Enterprise confirm that? So you're basically saying that most kids from Enterprise don't go to college. Besides, JUCO is almost free school anyway. They wouldn't be in debt if they went JUCO or have the scholarship money for a four year school.

[FBdude]

13 minutes ago, msaisbandkid said:

Thats pretty bold to say. Can someone who is actually from Enterprise confirm that? So you're basically saying that most kids from Enterprise don't go to college. Besides, JUCO is almost free school anyway. They wouldn't be in debt if they went JUCO or have the scholarship money for a four year school.

I live in Fellowship, 8 miles west of Enterprise, it’s a blue collar community. Have grands at Clarkdale & Newton co elementary schools, nephews & nieces at Enterprise. 

[FBdude]

20 minutes ago, msaisbandkid said:

Thats pretty bold to say. Can someone who is actually from Enterprise confirm that? So you're basically saying that most kids from Enterprise don't go to college. Besides, JUCO is almost free school anyway. They wouldn't be in debt if they went JUCO or have the scholarship money for a four year school.

I’m saying not every has to go to college, lot of money to be made with you hands. Welding, plumbing, HVac etc…..

[FBdude]

2 minutes ago, FBdude said:

I’m saying not every has to go to college, lot of money to be made with you hands. Welding, plumbing, HVac etc…..

And I’m sure kids who wish to attend college from Enterprise do just fine in college. Great school.