Chunky6617 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Can’t wait for other states to now follow suit now that the Supreme Court has ruled that states can ban abortion. I fully expect Mississippi to do the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I expect an uproar from the liberal left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebmus Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 From what I've read, it's limiting abortions in Texas to the first 6 weeks, not a "ban on abortion". Maybe something else happened that I've missed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 You are correct but they will still erupt. Now only women can get pregnant i guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky6617 Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 On 9/3/2021 at 8:30 PM, rebmus said: From what I've read, it's limiting abortions in Texas to the first 6 weeks, not a "ban on abortion". Maybe something else happened that I've missed? I’m not sure, but even if that’s the case it essentially ends abortion because most people do not even know they are pregnant until they are 6 weeks along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaisbandkid Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 On 9/5/2021 at 8:18 AM, Chunky6617 said: I’m not sure, but even if that’s the case it essentially ends abortion because most people do not even know they are pregnant until they are 6 weeks along. Just out of curiosity what exactly starts the timeline if conception is later than 0? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky6617 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) You will have to repeat that question again. What do you mean by a timeline? I’m not sure how Texas came to their timeline of 6 weeks. But a timeline for when life begins is clear. Life begins immediately at the moment of conception. All abortion should be from that moment forward. If a state wanted to make a case where abortion is only allowed if a woman’s life is in clear and imminent danger if she carries out the pregnancy full term, I could possibly at least see a self defense argument that could be made for that. Other than that however, all abortion should be totally illegal in all circumstances. Edited September 6, 2021 by Chunky6617 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaisbandkid Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Ok but isn't conception the moment that you realize that you have a baby? And if that is true conception could theoretically be further down the time table. Sorry I meant time table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky6617 Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 At the moment of conception is the instant moment you have a baby, correct. A new life is created at that moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebmus Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 9 hours ago, Chunky6617 said: At the moment of conception is the instant moment you have a baby, correct. A new life is created at that moment If a pregnant woman is killed, it's legally a double homicide. At what point is it considered a "double homicide"? It can't be homicide without a "life" so that's how the government views the definition of "life in the womb". Well, that's how the government views "life" in the case of homicide... it should be viewed the same across the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky6617 Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 Agreed. Once life is established, it’s to be protected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1nglewing Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 1 hour ago, rebmus said: If a pregnant woman is killed, it's legally a double homicide. At what point is it considered a "double homicide"? It can't be homicide without a "life" so that's how the government views the definition of "life in the womb". Well, that's how the government views "life" in the case of homicide... it should be viewed the same across the board. Bingo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itfitz Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I think in the Texas law 6 weeks is related to the time that a heartbeat can be detected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itfitz Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 On 9/6/2021 at 4:07 PM, Chunky6617 said: If a state wanted to make a case where abortion is only allowed if a woman’s life is in clear and imminent danger if she carries out the pregnancy full term, I could possibly at least see a self defense argument that could be made for that. Other than that however, all abortion should be totally illegal in all circumstances. I agree with this. I also don't know how the law can charge someone for a double murder in the case of a pregnant woman being murdered but deny that it is a human life when a woman chooses to abort a fetus that is the same gestational age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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