Week 10 Thread

[Former Coach]

State is in a situation that I don't know if there is a good answer. As someone said earlier KT being hurt isn't an excuse. It's real. If he's healthy they are probably 7-2 right now. But, he's not the only injury. We were down 6-8 defensive starters from the first of the year Saturday off of a defense that outside of 3-5 players isn't very good. It's easy to say a change has to be made. State is losing fan support which turns to fewer ticket sales and less NIL money donations. And it will only get worse with drop offs there. At the same time who do you go to. You have to find a NAME Power 5 head coach, but who would come here, that's one of the reasons we have Lebby now. My first thought was throw the bank at Utah's coach, but they play in a different league, not the SEC. Kyle Whittingham who had so much success winning 177 games at Utah over 20 years is struggling in the Big 10. It's just a different game in what I would say is the Power 2 (SEC, Big 10) Charles Huff has been mentioned but we would be a stepping stone job for him. Lebby has shown improvement from what he inherited when he got to 

State. If you keep him he has to fire the OL coach. That's where it starts for the offense. He has proven he can get skill guys. He has to find KT's replacement and your not going to find that in the portal. No SEC level starting QB is going to transfer to be a backup. I think Saturday will be make or brake. If somehow State miraculously beats Auburn the  Tenn Tech I think he gets one more year. With a loss I thin he's done.

[Bulldogs4]

It is a conundrum. I learn toward not burning down the program yet again. Do that and that will make 6 head coaches in nine years. We see where the coaching carousel has gotten Florida, Auburn, Arkansas, Tennessee (to a certain extent) and even LSU.

Every time you kick a coach to the curb it seems to get worse. Like throwing darts blindfolded. A program like State needs more stability at the HC position and have some patience to ride the downs with the ups. 
 

I do think he needs a shake up with the OL coach. Defense with Arnett looks good going forward.

S&C coach may need a makeover to ensure our players are in the best possible condition. 

[Dawg83]

I think State’s administration absolutely does not want to make a change and they’ve given Lebby every ounce of patience they possibly can. But it gets harder with every humiliating loss.

 

I think they believed we would beat Vandy and maybe Auburn and it would become a non issue. Then the first half on Saturday happened and I think Lebby totally lost any remaining support he had at that point.

 

I just don’t think there’s another school in the conference that would run it back for Year 4 with a coach that’s probably going to have a 3-22 SEC record after Black Friday. To me, State retaining him would be an admission to the fans that you shouldn’t have any kind of high hopes or expectations as a State fan, and that subpar results are acceptable. So if that’s the case, no one should be surprised when attendance remains terrible and they have a brutal time selling season tickets or getting NIL donations as long as Lebby is here.

Edited 2 hours ago by Dawg83

[Vott]

3 hours ago, Former Coach said:

State is in a situation that I don't know if there is a good answer. As someone said earlier KT being hurt isn't an excuse. It's real. If he's healthy they are probably 7-2 right now. But, he's not the only injury. We were down 6-8 defensive starters from the first of the year Saturday off of a defense that outside of 3-5 players isn't very good. It's easy to say a change has to be made. State is losing fan support which turns to fewer ticket sales and less NIL money donations. And it will only get worse with drop offs there. At the same time who do you go to. You have to find a NAME Power 5 head coach, but who would come here, that's one of the reasons we have Lebby now. My first thought was throw the bank at Utah's coach, but they play in a different league, not the SEC. Kyle Whittingham who had so much success winning 177 games at Utah over 20 years is struggling in the Big 10. It's just a different game in what I would say is the Power 2 (SEC, Big 10) Charles Huff has been mentioned but we would be a stepping stone job for him. Lebby has shown improvement from what he inherited when he got to 

State. If you keep him he has to fire the OL coach. That's where it starts for the offense. He has proven he can get skill guys. He has to find KT's replacement and your not going to find that in the portal. No SEC level starting QB is going to transfer to be a backup. I think Saturday will be make or brake. If somehow State miraculously beats Auburn the  Tenn Tech I think he gets one more year. With a loss I thin he's done.

I can see Tennessee Tech hanging with the Bulldogs. FCS or not 9-1 is pretty good

[maroontide06]

1 hour ago, Dawg83 said:

I think State’s administration absolutely does not want to make a change and they’ve given Lebby every ounce of patience they possibly can. But it gets harder with every humiliating loss.

 

I think they believed we would beat Vandy and maybe Auburn and it would become a non issue. Then the first half on Saturday happened and I think Lebby totally lost any remaining support he had at that point.

 

I just don’t think there’s another school in the conference that would run it back for Year 4 with a coach that’s probably going to have a 3-22 SEC record after Black Friday. To me, State retaining him would be an admission to the fans that you shouldn’t have any kind of high hopes or expectations as a State fan, and that subpar results are acceptable. So if that’s the case, no one should be surprised when attendance remains terrible and they have a brutal time selling season tickets or getting NIL donations as long as Lebby is here.

Lebby's not beating Auburn and he's certainly not beating Ole Miss.  If the chalk holds on his pending 3-22 SEC record, he will have the 2nd worst SEC winning percentage ever.  How in the heck is that valid for employment retention?

[coastball]

19 minutes ago, maroontide06 said:

Lebby's not beating Auburn and he's certainly not beating Ole Miss.  If the chalk holds on his pending 3-22 SEC record, he will have the 2nd worst SEC winning percentage ever.  How in the heck is that valid for employment retention?

He's gone I promise

[pancho]

19 minutes ago, coastball said:

He's gone I promise

after the season?