MHSAA needs to stop all private and public schools from playing against each other

[slicklizard]

Would a coach send his kids out there playing with one foot dressed in only a sock and the other wearing a cleat ? Same thing. One has the advantage of recruiting from anywhere while the other is scrutinized. It's not fair to the players.  

Funny you could't get a game with private schools now that they have a talent advantage they  want to quickly ok the game.  Stop it's not a competition . It's a mutilation. 

" Oh it makes you better " . No the hell it don't. Would sending ninth and tenth graders out there against junior college players make them better ?

Edited 15 hours ago by slicklizard

[BoKnows08]

I agree with this take. Either play MHSAA or MAIS. 

[coastball]

I can agree with limiting with who they play. However, there are PLENTY of MHSAA public school programs that recruit as well. 

[Vott]

45 minutes ago, BoKnows08 said:

I agree with this take. Either play MHSAA or MAIS. 

But what do you do when some private schools are a part of the MHSAA and have been in the MHSAA since they became a school

[slicklizard]

27 minutes ago, Vott said:

But what do you do when some private schools are a part of the MHSAA and have been in the MHSAA since they became a school

I don’t care if they have been in there since moses wore short pants they have to follow the same rules. Hauling Anthony Dixon

from Terry up to Madison Academy every day then over to Newton on Friday night to run through a bunch of tenth graders isn’t a just thing for the public school students.

 

Nip it in the bud now before it ruins all of it

[slicklizard]

50 minutes ago, coastball said:

I can agree with limiting with who they play. However, there are PLENTY of MHSAA public school programs that recruit as well. 

That is true, but at least they are having to hide it a little bit because they know if they get caught red-handed they could face punishment. The bigger private schools aren’t even trying to hide it because they don’t have to.

it makes the gap too wide talent wise for it to be functional anymore

[coastball]

16 minutes ago, slicklizard said:

That is true, but at least they are having to hide it a little bit because they know if they get caught red-handed they could face punishment. The bigger private schools aren’t even trying to hide it because they don’t have to.

it makes the gap too wide talent wise for it to be functional anymore

You are correct sir. I'd agree whole-heartedly if the MHSAA came out and said you can not schedule MAIS teams if you are MHSAA

[Rebel Bert]

Some MHSAA schools don't want to play MHSAA now aka Bay Springs/Forest not playing. Bay Springs excuse was our players get hurt vs Raleigh. 

[FBdude]

3 hours ago, Rebel Bert said:

Some MHSAA schools don't want to play MHSAA now aka Bay Springs/Forest not playing. Bay Springs excuse was our players get hurt vs Raleigh. 

Wait what?

[slicklizard]

4 hours ago, Rebel Bert said:

Some MHSAA schools don't want to play MHSAA now aka Bay Springs/Forest not playing. Bay Springs excuse was our players get hurt vs Raleigh. 

We talking about private schools brother bert. Long term how do you feel about it ?

[NoWammies]

11 hours ago, slicklizard said:

" Oh it makes you better " . No the hell it don't. Would sending ninth and tenth graders out there against junior college players make them better ?

So how people have always said when smaller schools schedule schools that are 2 to 3 classes above them it’s to prepare them for region play and playoffs, that’s not actually making them better? Should lower class schools stop scheduling higher class schools?

 

 I think your comment is a bit of a knee jerk reaction. Almost every year, teams like Tupelo, Oak Grove, Brandon just to name a few will field more future college players than any of the MAIS schools. Teams like JA this year come around every so often like Greenville Christian a few years ago which was a different circumstance and even that team which as of now is the best MAIS school of all time had a battle with Oak Grove. Just this year MRA/JDC was a dang good game and was nothing like 9th/10th graders playing junior college players. Same with Columbia/Hartfield. Those are 2 of the big 4 MAIS schools and I would think of those as 2 good 4A schools rather than junior colleges. You talk as if these schools are like IMG, Bishop Gorman or Mater Dei when in all actuality they may only have 3 or 4 guys that aren’t home grown. 

[Rebel Bert]

1 hour ago, slicklizard said:

We talking about private schools brother bert. Long term how do you feel about it ?

Let's go back to 6 or 7 schools per region in 1A-4A and i think you eliminate open dates by the time you play your non region rivalry games. Otherwise you have coach Higdon hanging on to playing D'Iberville and whomever he get to replace Forest in an open date situation. Perhaps if we might be fortunate to play Seminary and JDC in non region should they get stuck back in Region 8. Especially if the 1.5 multiplier bumps up PCS, St Patrick, and St Andrew's to 4A or 5A. I expect 3A schools will shift to the south some degree. It wouldn't surprise me that we end up with Louisville, Noxubee, or Yazoo County wilk shift south. 1A should stay 4 regions instead of 8. The coaches are forcing themselves with 7 classes to play larger schools. Honestly 8 regions in 7 classes leaves 1 school with an open every week per class. So if PCS has to play Columbia Academy in week one or Mobile Christian like this year then it is because of 7 classes. Higdon called 3 coaches with open dates October 9th after Forest pulled out. No one wanted to play Raleigh.  No one. If we keep trending in that direction you will continue to see Higdon and Mancuso fill their schedule with a large MAIS school. I expect the other coaches to do the same or go out of state.

[slicklizard]

2 hours ago, NoWammies said:

So how people have always said when smaller schools schedule schools that are 2 to 3 classes above them it’s to prepare them for region play and playoffs, that’s not actually making them better? Should lower class schools stop scheduling higher class schools?

 

 I think your comment is a bit of a knee jerk reaction. Almost every year, teams like Tupelo, Oak Grove, Brandon just to name a few will field more future college players than any of the MAIS schools. Teams like JA this year come around every so often like Greenville Christian a few years ago which was a different circumstance and even that team which as of now is the best MAIS school of all time had a battle with Oak Grove. Just this year MRA/JDC was a dang good game and was nothing like 9th/10th graders playing junior college players. Same with Columbia/Hartfield. Those are 2 of the big 4 MAIS schools and I would think of those as 2 good 4A schools rather than junior colleges. You talk as if these schools are like IMG, Bishop Gorman or Mater Dei when in all actuality they may only have 3 or 4 guys that aren’t home grown. 

 

Tell that part about playing two or three classes up to Brookhaven. 

 

Rules man. Rules  You assume what I mean when you mentioned IMG, Mater Dei. I assume your position comes from that of someone associated  with a private school. Are Tupelo. Brandon, etc governed the same as someone like Simmons ? Is MRA governed by the same rules as far as limiting what players can play based on residence ? If it's different then that's a loophole than can be exploited. That's the sticking point . No getting around it. It may not be that big of a deal now but sometime in the near future it will. In some cases  it's getting there now. 

If the entities aren't brought in together under the same guidelines(which. private schools will never agree to) let me tell you what's going to happen next. Some parents are going to start complaining . Legal counsel is going to get involved and next thing thing you know our high school athletics system will look like Louisiana's. It's destroyed and a joke 

Things aren't like they were even ten years ago.  MHSAA is sitting on their hands and not adapting. Separate them now and let them go their own ways with their own guidelines. Even if MHSAA has to create a whole new division just to handle private,

Edited 2 hours ago by slicklizard

[slicklizard]

1 hour ago, Rebel Bert said:

Let's go back to 6 or 7 schools per region in 1A-4A and i think you eliminate open dates by the time you play your non region rivalry games. Otherwise you have coach Higdon hanging on to playing D'Iberville and whomever he get to replace Forest in an open date situation. Perhaps if we might be fortunate to play Seminary and JDC in non region should they get stuck back in Region 8. Especially if the 1.5 multiplier bumps up PCS, St Patrick, and St Andrew's to 4A or 5A. I expect 3A schools will shift to the south some degree. It wouldn't surprise me that we end up with Louisville, Noxubee, or Yazoo County wilk shift south. 1A should stay 4 regions instead of 8. The coaches are forcing themselves with 7 classes to play larger schools. Honestly 8 regions in 7 classes leaves 1 school with an open every week per class. So if PCS has to play Columbia Academy in week one or Mobile Christian like this year then it is because of 7 classes. Higdon called 3 coaches with open dates October 9th after Forest pulled out. No one wanted to play Raleigh.  No one. If we keep trending in that direction you will continue to see Higdon and Mancuso fill their schedule with a large MAIS school. I expect the other coaches to do the same or go out of state.

 

I get that view point  but I can't get on board with it.

 

 I've got a solution for that too. Let them play some of their regions or class twice or three times if in the playoffs.  Before going running hat in hand begging to let us play against your bused in kids. What if MHSAA is planning on filling out some of those classes with private schools at some point behind the scenes ?

 

If you remember I brought this up back in the summer and pretty much everyone thought it was because  of more playoff gate. I thought at the time there was more to it but didn't say anything. The man who Wayne County just ran off was a big part of that instituting more classes, He also likes to run his mouth. Just sayin