Vott Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 10 hours ago, slicklizard said: Coach Jack Hankins has gotten a lot of grief from me over the last few seasons, Looking back I really don’t think he knew what he was getting into. He came in with a wary eye cast on him by many including me. His entire time the teams he put out only got worse season over season. He wasn’t prepared to deal with the level of competition he faced in South MS.He looked over our history and thought the talent gap was the reason. I have said it before most everyone in the pine belt has the same level of talent. Coaching is the reason the top teams are at the top.. They also cut funding and his assistant coaches every year. He had a good heart and I think he genuinely wanted to play at a high level he just didn’t know how to do it. When winning is way down the list of his bosses he kept the football team in line and run off many that they thought might cause trouble.. He stayed one for sure maybe two seasons to long/ He’s now the face of WC’s worst seasons in the last 25 years maybe ever . I haven’t looked. The lions share of that blame goes to his boss Bubba Hathorne, He forced a complete philosophy change to some version to a wing offense because we hounded him and he was going to show us. He failed yet again. He’s retiring, at least that’s the good face they are putting on it. Goodbye Coach Hankins. It couldn’t have been a worse fit but I believe you did your best Was the Hankins era worse than the Coach Baughman and Coach Henry years? I remember for those few yrs when they were in the region with Hattiesburg and the coast teams they played some really bad football during that stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCWildcatFan Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, maroontide06 said: If not now, then when and with who? This wouldn't fall all on him. He would have a staff as well, and I think he would have a good staff. This would be an opportunity for him to surround himself with experience. He doesn't and shouldn't have to hire a bunch of "Greene" assistants. There would be quality coaches in this state chomping at the bit to come coach for him. I’m not sure of how great of a staff he could put together at WC because WC doesn’t pay assistant coaches very well. I know this because a good friend of mine coaches at WC now. It only pays good if you have multiple years of experience within the district. I agree that Lampley and Gandy would both be good options. I agree that they could get more kids to play for them. I just think that is a massive jump for Lampley, and he is just simply walking into a well oiled machine like Picayune or West Point. WC football is in shambles. I think Lampley would have been fine had he followed Boyles or Mangum because it would be a matter of just coaching ball. I think WC needs somebody that knows how football programs work from the top to the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCWildcatFan Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Wareaglefan1us said: You also mentioned Kevin Gandy he’s absolutely one of the best young Godly coaches out there. You are right he’s got a little experience now as a head coach he also would do a good job. Picture this the both of them working together I believe that’s a big possibility. They both would love a hand in rebuilding the program and there’s a lot of talent to work with. Personally I wouldn’t won’t to coach my home school lol. You have all your family and friends who think little Johnny is the best player and shouldn’t come off of the field. Lampley and Gandy will block that out and play to win. It doesn’t matter if they are playing marbles they want to be the best That would be a dangerous combination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicklizard Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, GCWildcatFan said: I think Lampley is a great coach with great character and will be a very successful head coach one day. However, I don’t know if he is ready for a job of that magnitude, and I’m not sure if he has ever even called a play. I think with the current state of the WC program, you need to find someone that is from or has ties to the community, understands the COUNTY, and has head coaching experience. I agree with you on it not being Reynolds. He won with Pierson’s team. I think Carter would be a decent fit, but I’m not sold one how good of a coach he actually is, or has he just won because of the talent gap. I think Kevin Gandy would be a good fit now that he has a few years of head coaching experience under his belt, and it would right the wrong that Hathorne did. Mitch Evans would be a good fit. I wonder if WC would consider hiring another retired guy after the latest failure. Idk that’s just my two cents coming from a Greene County prospective He would have his doubters for sure. I don't think anyone outside of Waynesboro realizes just how broken the whole thing is . Anybody that watched the youth teams has to wonder where all the players went when they went up to the high school. That would get fixed immediately with Pound. You also would be getting coach Boyles a phone call away . He's as sad as the rest of us. You mentioned Kat. Don't be surprised if he plays a big part if Tracey can land the job. Without naming names I talked to a former part of those staffs under Marcus back during the playoffs. His exact words " we want this sh**t fixed ". They all do. Pound is the first step. 55 minutes ago, Vott said: Was the Hankins era worse than the Coach Baughman and Coach Henry years? I remember for those few yrs when they were in the region with Hattiesburg and the coast teams they played some really bad football during that stretch. His record is comparable to Baughman's maybe worse. I really can't answer because I was in Brazil at that time. Wareaglefan can probably answer it a lot better than me. One of the nicest people I know and looks at the ground and spits when his name gets brought up . lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wareaglefan1us Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 11 minutes ago, GCWildcatFan said: I’m not sure of how great of a staff he could put together at WC because WC doesn’t pay assistant coaches very well. I know this because a good friend of mine coaches at WC now. It only pays good if you have multiple years of experience within the district. I agree that Lampley and Gandy would both be good options. I agree that they could get more kids to play for them. I just think that is a massive jump for Lampley, and he is just simply walking into a well oiled machine like Picayune or West Point. WC football is in shambles. I think Lampley would have been fine had he followed Boyles or Mangum because it would be a matter of just coaching ball. I think WC needs somebody that knows how football programs work from the top to the bottom. We had a superintendent that cut pay a few years ago and stopped our Junior High coaches from being assistants on the high school level. If you remember back in the Boyles and Mangum years WC had as good of Staffs as anyone in the state. I’m hearing the pays not going to be an issue for the right assistants. They are tired of an empty stadium on Friday Nights. In order to change that they are going to have to spend no matter who the new HC is because he’s only as good as his staff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wareaglefan1us Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vott said: Was the Hankins era worse than the Coach Baughman and Coach Henry years? I remember for those few yrs when they were in the region with Hattiesburg and the coast teams they played some really bad football during that stretch. Baughman was an absolute joke when he was there. Coach Hankins looked like Nick Saban compared to him. Numbers wise he was very comparable to Henry. I will say this about Coach Hankins he’s a really good guy. He got a bad hand taking over for Kevin Gandy. Gandy was named interim during the COVID year and I thought did a pretty good job under the circumstances. The had to forfeit a few games that were region games so that killed him but wasn’t his fault. You had a lot of people who wanted him to get another year at least. So when they hired Coach Hankins a lot of people were upset and never let their kids play and I’m talking some good players. You still have that happening to kids walking the hallways not playing for him. Most of the kids that played for Hankins really liked him. Edited January 30 by Wareaglefan1us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Howard Cosell Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Mitch Evans era! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCsunshine89 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) 9 hours ago, Wareaglefan1us said: Baughman was an absolute joke when he was there. Coach Hankins looked like Nick Saban compared to him. Numbers wise he was very comparable to Henry. I will say this about Coach Hankins he’s a really good guy. He got a bad hand taking over for Kevin Gandy. Gandy was named interim during the COVID year and I thought did a pretty good job under the circumstances. The had to forfeit a few games that were region games so that killed him but wasn’t his fault. You had a lot of people who wanted him to get another year at least. So when they hired Coach Hankins a lot of people were upset and never let their kids play and I’m talking some good players. You still have that happening to kids walking the hallways not playing for him. Most of the kids that played for Hankins really liked him. Baughman was 6-15 Henry was 12-22 I hope they hire the best coach for the job. Talent is there. Curious to see who the hire. Need to get Coach Turner and Sellers back out of retirement. * Edited January 31 by JCsunshine89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positiveyard33 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 The job post on the MHSAA website says “4A-7A head coach experience preferred, state championship experience a plus”. That seems pretty specific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wareaglefan1us Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Of the names I’ve heard so far that eliminates all but two Daryl Carter and Cory Reynolds. Well I’ve heard one more but I believe it’s just wishful thinking. I remember the last time they hired a coach it was worded pretty much the same way and they had some really good applicants but went out of state. Another thing the post on the MHSAA says is contact Bubba Hathorne. He definitely turned in his retirement papers for the end of the school year. I don’t think he should have anything to do with hiring a new coach. It’s not like he’s going to be there next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Wareaglefan1us said: Of the names I’ve heard so far that eliminates all but two Daryl Carter and Cory Reynolds. Well I’ve heard one more but I believe it’s just wishful thinking. I remember the last time they hired a coach it was worded pretty much the same way and they had some really good applicants but went out of state. Another thing the post on the MHSAA says is contact Bubba Hathorne. He definitely turned in his retirement papers for the end of the school year. I don’t think he should have anything to do with hiring a new coach. It’s not like he’s going to be there next year. Bubba will hire the worse coach possible now if he is awful as some say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicklizard Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 (edited) CHAMPIONSHIP EXPERIENCE 2011 C-USA Chanpionship MVP Played in 4A State final in 2005 and 2006 Also coached at Hinds JC Also energizing the fan base doesn't like something Bubba Hathorne would put in there. I don't know why his name is on there but I would encourage anyone interested in the position to contact Ms Lynn Revette. 6 hours ago, Rebel Bert said: if he is awful as some say. Are ya'll friends ? What rock have you been living under ? I've been harping on this loser since 2016 and EVERYTHING I put out there has come to pass. It's telling in all that time no player or coach ever came on here and defended him. Ask coach kat gandy about him . Also no Tony Vance Wayne County doesn't want you. We don't need intimidate the officials as a game plan Edited January 31 by slicklizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 11 hours ago, Wareaglefan1us said: Of the names I’ve heard so far that eliminates all but two Daryl Carter and Cory Reynolds. Well I’ve heard one more but I believe it’s just wishful thinking. I remember the last time they hired a coach it was worded pretty much the same way and they had some really good applicants but went out of state. Another thing the post on the MHSAA says is contact Bubba Hathorne. He definitely turned in his retirement papers for the end of the school year. I don’t think he should have anything to do with hiring a new coach. It’s not like he’s going to be there next year. He should step aside and let the asst principal or a committee do the interviews and recommendation to the board. Well if he is honest he will stay out of it. I don't see him doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wareaglefan1us Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, slicklizard said: CHAMPIONSHIP EXPERIENCE 2011 C-USA Chanpionship MVP Played in 4A State final in 2005 and 2006 Also coached at Hinds JC Also energizing the fan base doesn't like something Bubba Hathorne would put in there. I don't know why his name is on there but I would encourage anyone interested in the position to contact Ms Lynn Revette. Are ya'll friends ? What rock have you been living under ? I've been harping on this loser since 2016 and EVERYTHING I put out there has come to pass. It's telling in all that time no player or coach ever came on here and defended him. Ask coach kat gandy about him . Also no Tony Vance Wayne County doesn't want you. We don't need intimidate the officials as a game plan Slick He also coached three seasons with Marcus Boyles at Petal. To go along with his time at Ocean Springs. Energizing the Fan base… all you have to do is get out around the community and listen to the people talking about the possibility of him coming home. Everyone knows that he’s never been a head coach. Like you said Marcus is just a phone call away. It will be a learning experience but I feel he brings in a good staff to help him make it a smooth transition. Most of all I believe you will see the sidelines full of players wanting to play. His old high school teammate Calvin McDougle has a couple of sons that are going to make some noise the next year or so just to name a couple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 How many new staff will be allowed to come? Most schools I know of simply hire a HC and tell him his assistants are already there teaching at the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wareaglefan1us Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, pancho said: How many new staff will be allowed to come? Most schools I know of simply hire a HC and tell him his assistants are already there teaching at the school. If I’m not mistaken there’s only about three coaches that may stay. The others were brought in from out of state by Coach Hankins. They may be given the option to stay but I think they return home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Is that a good thing in this case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wareaglefan1us Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 16 minutes ago, pancho said: Is that a good thing in this case? We will see …. If that’s the case he can bring in some people he’s familiar with. Back in WC’s championship days most of the coaches were local people that knew the kids. With the exception of Mangum, Murphy, Collums, who served as OC and DC on some of the teams. this is a lot of speculation on our parts because we have no clue who gets hired. If Lampley gets it look for your JR high coaches to be back on staff to get those feeder programs back involved I would say that happens even if Kevin Gandy is hired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 What's the relationship between Boyles and the current Superintendent and or any board members? Iam quite sure if asked her will give input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wareaglefan1us Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Rebel Bert said: What's the relationship between Boyles and the current Superintendent and or any board members? Iam quite sure if asked her will give input. I’m sure he gets along great with the interim Superintendent remember we are in the process of hiring a new Superintendent. As far as the board goes he has a form player on the board as well as one of his former players mom so I think he has good relationships there. When Marcus left it was in good standings here no hard feelings he did what he felt was best for his family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 14 hours ago, Wareaglefan1us said: I’m sure he gets along great with the interim Superintendent remember we are in the process of hiring a new Superintendent. As far as the board goes he has a form player on the board as well as one of his former players mom so I think he has good relationships there. When Marcus left it was in good standings here no hard feelings he did what he felt was best for his family. Them Marcus will be willing to recommend the best coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, Rebel Bert said: Them Marcus will be willing to recommend the best coach. Also Marcus was the assistant principal at one time. He might be willing to return as principal with hiring his coach ing staff at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky6617 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Marcus at one time had considered the idea of retiring at Wayne county and then crossing over the state line into Alabama and coaching over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wareaglefan1us Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 44 minutes ago, Chunky6617 said: Marcus at one time had considered the idea of retiring at Wayne county and then crossing over the state line into Alabama and coaching over there. He always welcome on the sidelines at WC. The program he put on the map could sure use him to do it again. Realistically I never see it happening, I believe he finishes his career at Petal where his daughter teaches and grandson is in school watching him coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Chunky6617 said: Marcus at one time had considered the idea of retiring at Wayne county and then crossing over the state line into Alabama and coaching over there. He built a home in Clarke County on a lake. He is not moving far from where he is at. He will retire again at Petal most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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