Wareaglefan1us Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 He took over at Wayne Academy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Howard Cosell Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroontide06 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 It’s a glorious day, ain’t it. @slicklizardI think you must be thrilled about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wcchaingang Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 I wish him nothing but the best but the politics in that school are through the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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maroontide06 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, slicklizard said: So is this a bad move? I’m confused LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAnswer Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 These retired public school coaches getting into MAIS really is aggravating. It’s all about them getting a paycheck. PERS ought to suspend any retirement payments to these coaches just abusing the system. Off the top of my head, none have even won a MAIS championship. Most don’t make it more than 2-3 years. Really hurts the coaching profession as well by not giving a young coach a chance at a HC job and just recycling these old geezers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1nglewing Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 32 minutes ago, TheAnswer said: These retired public school coaches getting into MAIS really is aggravating. It’s all about them getting a paycheck. PERS ought to suspend any retirement payments to these coaches just abusing the system. Off the top of my head, none have even won a MAIS championship. Most don’t make it more than 2-3 years. Really hurts the coaching profession as well by not giving a young coach a chance at a HC job and just recycling these old geezers. Ricky Black won one or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyouevencoachbro Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 2 hours ago, TheAnswer said: These retired public school coaches getting into MAIS really is aggravating. It’s all about them getting a paycheck. PERS ought to suspend any retirement payments to these coaches just abusing the system. Off the top of my head, none have even won a MAIS championship. Most don’t make it more than 2-3 years. Really hurts the coaching profession as well by not giving a young coach a chance at a HC job and just recycling these old geezers. Others may have a different opinion but young coaches need to get into the Pers system. A lot of private schools do not pay anywhere close to what you would make as a public school teacher and on top of that they do not offer retirement until you get to a certain point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wareaglefan1us Posted May 27, 2023 Author Share Posted May 27, 2023 2 hours ago, doyouevencoachbro said: Others may have a different opinion but young coaches need to get into the Pers system. A lot of private schools do not pay anywhere close to what you would make as a public school teacher and on top of that they do not offer retirement until you get to a certain point. I totally agree with this statement. You young coaches get in the pers system and lay a foundation for your future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAnswer Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 The way the PERS system is going and being abused, there won’t be one for the young coaches when they decide to retire in 20-30 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicklizard Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, maroontide06 said: So is this a bad move? I’m confused LOL! I’m a little confused by this development too. Hence the frustration. I’d like to think he’s on ice for the possibility of Wayne County opening up in the near future but I also know that as long as certain people make the hire they would throw his application in the trash upon arrival as they would Coach Boyles’ too. Edited May 28, 2023 by slicklizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wcchaingang Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 44 minutes ago, slicklizard said: I’m a little confused by this development too. Hence the frustration. I’d like to think he’s on ice for the possibility of Wayne County opening up in the near future but I also know that as long as certain people make the hire they would throw his application in the trash upon arrival as they would Coach Boyles’ too. The ones that wouldn’t hire him a few years ago are no longer in control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroontide06 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) It’ll be interesting to see how this pans out. I feel like there’s probably going to be a good bit of game hopping when Wayne County and Wayne Academy have home football games on the same Friday nights. I mean if I lived in Waynesboro, I would definitely want to do it. Edited May 28, 2023 by maroontide06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slicklizard Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Wcchaingang said: The ones that wouldn’t hire him a few years ago are no longer in control. I hope you are right and will defer to you on the matter but I am just going to come out and say it.. Coach Hankins wants to win and is doing everything he can to put us on top. I could never get on board with forcing him out. On the might have beens though I know that Marcus made sure what Coach Hankins was going to do before he took the Meridian job. That’s why he was hanging around town and the school right before Christmas. Coach stayed so I will ride with him. Breland also was eying what was going on. It is what it is. 1 hour ago, maroontide06 said: It’ll be interesting to see how this pans out. I feel like there’s probably going to be a good bit of game hopping when Wayne County and Wayne Academy have home football games on the same Friday nights. I mean if I lived in Waynesboro, I would definitely want to do it. He will be working with 25% of what he had with SJ. Granted the competition won’t be that stiff either. The thing I don’t get is why West Jones didn’t reel him in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wcchaingang Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 1 hour ago, slicklizard said: I hope you are right and will defer to you on the matter but I am just going to come out and say it.. Coach Hankins wants to win and is doing everything he can to put us on top. I could never get on board with forcing him out. On the might have beens though I know that Marcus made sure what Coach Hankins was going to do before he took the Meridian job. That’s why he was hanging around town and the school right before Christmas. Coach stayed so I will ride with him. Breland also was eying what was going on. It is what it is. He will be working with 25% of what he had with SJ. Granted the competition won’t be that stiff either. The thing I don’t get is why West Jones didn’t reel him in. I don’t see him being at the academy long. I can’t see the people who are in charge staying out of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAnswer Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 On 5/27/2023 at 12:27 PM, s1nglewing said: Ricky Black won one or two I always forget him that he got his final years at Mississippi State before going to Prep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestBankboy Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 On 5/27/2023 at 7:10 PM, TheAnswer said: The way the PERS system is going and being abused, there won’t be one for the young coaches when they decide to retire in 20-30 years. This makes no sense in reference to Breland or any retired coach/teacher. His PERS is set regardless it he coaches at an Academy or not. So, are you saying anyone who retires should not look for other ways of making a living and should just sit home and rot. You have retired people in all professions who retire draw pensions and start another carrier. It boggles my mind the number of haters in this world who just don't get it and talk about things that they have no clue about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longhorn75 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 On 5/27/2023 at 11:54 AM, TheAnswer said: These retired public school coaches getting into MAIS really is aggravating. It’s all about them getting a paycheck. PERS ought to suspend any retirement payments to these coaches just abusing the system. Off the top of my head, none have even won a MAIS championship. Most don’t make it more than 2-3 years. Really hurts the coaching profession as well by not giving a young coach a chance at a HC job and just recycling these old geezers. I don't have an issue at all, with a coach getting his PERS years in, and then double-dipping. You cannot fault a coach for doing what's best for his family and himself. He gets full-retirement, and some spending cash on top of that,. Anyway, it's not like teachers get paid much at all, so you can't fault them for double dipping. We have actually had some retired public school coaches who have taken their school to the championship, Ricky Black, of course dominated at Prep, and Doug Goodwin has done the same in his legacy. Mangum took Wayne and Simpson to the State title game, but came up short both times. Look at the decline of St. Andrew's after David Bradberry stepped away from there. Regardless though, after you retire many people work to keep themselves active, and to find a pastime. Life after retirement can be very boring at times, and thus you can't fault a person to work a post-retirement career to supplement their incomes, and to keep themselves proficient. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBdude Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Majority of the better and more stable MAIS programs are ran by long term/life long MAIS guys. Doesn’t mean retired coaches don’t do good, and sure doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be able to have access to their retirement. Herbert David King Brian Pickens Chase Nicholson Sean Harrison (now in admin) all great coaches and are MAIS guys. Magnum is doing great. Barnes and Black did great. a good coach is a good coach. as far as Breland and Wayne Aca. They sure go through a lot of football coaches over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1nglewing Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 hour ago, FBdude said: Majority of the better and more stable MAIS programs are ran by long term/life long MAIS guys. Doesn’t mean retired coaches don’t do good, and sure doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be able to have access to their retirement. Herbert David King Brian Pickens Chase Nicholson Sean Harrison (now in admin) all great coaches and are MAIS guys. Magnum is doing great. Barnes and Black did great. a good coach is a good coach. as far as Breland and Wayne Aca. They sure go through a lot of football coaches over there. 14 since 1998 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wareaglefan1us Posted June 4, 2023 Author Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/1/2023 at 10:21 PM, s1nglewing said: 14 since 1998 They haven’t been investing in Coaches like they seem to be doing now. They hired Dusty Hillman for baseball he has several state titles. Now Todd Breland in Football. I also read where they hired a new girls basketball coach sorry I don’t know her name. My point is they are going after good coaches. They had Todd Mangum he left to take the Simpson job but that’s home for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1nglewing Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Wayne Academy has never, since the school's inception, had a football coach stay more than four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBdude Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 17 hours ago, Wareaglefan1us said: They haven’t been investing in Coaches like they seem to be doing now. They hired Dusty Hillman for baseball he has several state titles. Now Todd Breland in Football. I also read where they hired a new girls basketball coach sorry I don’t know her name. My point is they are going after good coaches. They had Todd Mangum he left to take the Simpson job but that’s home for him. Ainsworth built that baseball program. Hiring Holman after him was a home run hire, but it started with ainsworth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wareaglefan1us Posted June 4, 2023 Author Share Posted June 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, FBdude said: Ainsworth built that baseball program. Hiring Holman after him was a home run hire, but it started with ainsworth. Most definitely Ainsworth did a great job building the program. My point was only that they are hiring some good coaches right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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