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1 hour ago, RUNNINGMAN67 said:

i very much disagree but everone is entitled to there opinion. Who do you think would be a good hire for them?

Well if the names who others said have applied, actually have applied. Forrest Williams, John Feaster, Teddy Dyess all would be great choices ahead of Lane Brady. Again, decent guy from some accounts I have heard. He has been at roughly 4 or so schools over the last 7-8 years. Not a good look to be moving around that much. I understand you like him because he coached your boy, but I have heard different tunes regarding him from 3 different schools. 

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51 minutes ago, coastfootballfanman said:

Well if the names who others said have applied, actually have applied. Forrest Williams, John Feaster, Teddy Dyess all would be great choices ahead of Lane Brady. Again, decent guy from some accounts I have heard. He has been at roughly 4 or so schools over the last 7-8 years. Not a good look to be moving around that much. I understand you like him because he coached your boy, but I have heard different tunes regarding him from 3 different schools. 

I cannot argue that those three coaches might be good fits, but where does everyone get this idea that if a coach moves around it means he is bad at his job? Wouldn't you move/change jobs if you got a promotion, raise, better benefits, or puts you closer to home? I have seen that said on several different threads and cannot get on board with that being a reason that a coach is bad. If you look at the career of some of the best coaches of all time, you will see that they moved around at the beginning of their career. 

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4 minutes ago, GCWildcatFan said:

I cannot argue that those three coaches might be good fits, but where does everyone get this idea that if a coach moves around it means he is bad at his job? Wouldn't you move/change jobs if you got a promotion, raise, better benefits, or puts you closer to home? I have seen that said on several different threads and cannot get on board with that being a reason that a coach is bad. If you look at the career of some of the best coaches of all time, you will see that they moved around at the beginning of their career. 

I said that? I just read my post again and I did not see that in there. I said it is a bad look. Which it is to a lot of people. 

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Just now, coastfootballfanman said:

I said that? I just read my post again and I did not see that in there. I said it is a bad look. Which it is to a lot of people. 

Well then allow me to rephrase my question to fit your post. What makes it a bad look for a coach to move around? I'm sure there are a lot of coaches out there that would love to be able to stay at one place, get promotions, and become the head coach. That's just not out the coaching profession typically works especially for younger guys try to reach the top level.  Wouldn't you move that much if you had a better opportunity waiting?

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1 hour ago, GCWildcatFan said:

Well then allow me to rephrase my question to fit your post. What makes it a bad look for a coach to move around? I'm sure there are a lot of coaches out there that would love to be able to stay at one place, get promotions, and become the head coach. That's just not out the coaching profession typically works especially for younger guys try to reach the top level.  Wouldn't you move that much if you had a better opportunity waiting?

I have had opportunities to move on to other jobs in the past for better pay, benefits, etc. and have turned them down for loyalty to my company and my boss. Do I understand people moving around for those reasons? Sure. However to me, it is a red flag if a coach has that many stops over a short amount of time. It signals you’re either always looking for the next job or you just are not a very good coach therefore you are let go or not renewed. Neither of those is something I would want on my staff as a coach. 

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1 hour ago, coastfootballfanman said:

I have had opportunities to move on to other jobs in the past for better pay, benefits, etc. and have turned them down for loyalty to my company and my boss. Do I understand people moving around for those reasons? Sure. However to me, it is a red flag if a coach has that many stops over a short amount of time. It signals you’re either always looking for the next job or you just are not a very good coach therefore you are let go or not renewed. Neither of those is something I would want on my staff as a coach. 

I completely understand the loyalty point, but it’s not a loyalty issue with most young coaches. It’s the desire to move up and the willingness to do what you have to do to get to the ultimate goal(head coach). If you don’t make your goals happen, they will remain simply goals and nothing else. Plus the old time loyalty stuff doesn’t matter to employers anymore. They will have you replaced before your funeral. 

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2 hours ago, coastfootballfanman said:

I have had opportunities to move on to other jobs in the past for better pay, benefits, etc. and have turned them down for loyalty to my company and my boss. Do I understand people moving around for those reasons? Sure. However to me, it is a red flag if a coach has that many stops over a short amount of time. It signals you’re either always looking for the next job or you just are not a very good coach therefore you are let go or not renewed. Neither of those is something I would want on my staff as a coach. 


It might signal that, that is if you aren’t aware of how bad the employers in this state can be/still are.

 

Before you cast judgement on those guys who move around looking for the right situation, consider the actual sociopaths they have to work for.  Loyalty might sound good to you, but it’s practically meaningless to a guy trying to support a family while working in quite possibly the most volatile profession in America.

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8 minutes ago, HailState58 said:


It might signal that, that is if you aren’t aware of how bad the employers in this state can be/still are.

 

Before you cast judgement on those guys who move around looking for the right situation, consider the actual sociopaths they have to work for.  Loyalty might sound good to you, but it’s practically meaningless to a guy trying to support a family while working in quite possibly the most volatile profession in America.

My brother was a coach/AD in Louisiana for 30 years. My mother taught for 35 years. I am well aware of the plight educators go through. Sounds like you’re speaking for yourself in your opinions of what you have dealt with. That is not the case for most of the friends/family I have in education. To each their own. My opinion is simply that. My opinion. Does not make it the gospel nor right or wrong. 

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1 hour ago, GCWildcatFan said:

I completely understand the loyalty point, but it’s not a loyalty issue with most young coaches. It’s the desire to move up and the willingness to do what you have to do to get to the ultimate goal(head coach). If you don’t make your goals happen, they will remain simply goals and nothing else. Plus the old time loyalty stuff doesn’t matter to employers anymore. They will have you replaced before your funeral. 

You are not wrong in your thinking at all. I just know plenty of guys in the profession that have mentioned when they get a resume of a coach, young or old, and it has a a lot of stops on it, they question it. That has come from coaches who are considered great coaches and some who are not. Again, not saying it is the absolute truth, just that I know folks who share the sentiment. 

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13 hours ago, coastfootballfanman said:

You are not wrong in your thinking at all. I just know plenty of guys in the profession that have mentioned when they get a resume of a coach, young or old, and it has a a lot of stops on it, they question it. That has come from coaches who are considered great coaches and some who are not. Again, not saying it is the absolute truth, just that I know folks who share the sentiment. 

I get it man. There is merit to being loyal, and I’m sure most people are loyal to their employer when they have great leadership. The biggest issue is that leadership of schools change like coaches in a lot of schools which prompts the coaches to leave as well. I have several coaching buddies that have changed jobs because of the district hiring but-cases as principal.

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On 3/8/2024 at 6:52 PM, coastfootballfanman said:

You are not wrong in your thinking at all. I just know plenty of guys in the profession that have mentioned when they get a resume of a coach, young or old, and it has a a lot of stops on it, they question it. That has come from coaches who are considered great coaches and some who are not. Again, not saying it is the absolute truth, just that I know folks who share the sentiment. 

Agreed. It's a matter of how you see things. A resume with 5 stops in 6-7 years is not a good look in my opinion. I feel most AD's or principals looking to hire are looking for someone who is ready to invest in the kids. Jumping ship for whatever reasons does not offer stability. I feel the kids deserve stability of a coach invested in them. 

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