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Just now, Raiders 10 said:

it hot seat time for Chris Jan

Nope. Maybe it’s a conversation if they stink next year too. But a men’s basketball coach at State that’s about to miss the NCAAT for the first time in 4 years isn’t on the hot seat.

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20 minutes ago, Bulldogs4 said:

Missed two FT’s and a layup. 
But it was an ugly game that State lost and Ole Miss did not lose.

 

Coach Jans is safe. I can’t believe that someone would even broach that subject. 


Safe, but I think Beard outcoached him tonight.   

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1 hour ago, MSTSatchmo said:

Both teams could. It buy a three, but when Hubbard goes 5-10 from the line, you know it’s not State’s night.  I couldn’t believe he missed two with the game on the line.  

I've heard that FT's go for 250k a pop nowadays 

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12 minutes ago, MSTSatchmo said:


Safe, but I think Beard outcoached him tonight.   

I didn’t think Ole Miss played particularly well either but Beard was wise to utilize the size advantage his guards had. Beard’s an excellent coach. I don’t see either of these teams making the tournament. But I think both are in solid hands as long as their current coach is there.

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What I would say to State fans about Jans is you don’t get to have it both ways. State people treat men’s basketball like the red headed step child that’s only there to kill time until baseball opening weekend, but then think a coach who’s never missed the NCAAT until this season isn’t any good after one down year.

 

The anti-Jans contingent is either too young to remember 2012 or they’ve forgotten the hard lessons learned with that debacle of a coaching search, but running off a coach like Jans is how you end up with the Rick Ray’s of the world. Is Jans an elite coach? No probably not. But he’s above average for dang sure, and it’d be way easier for State to downgrade from Jans than upgrade.

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Are you guys hearing something that I am not?

Yes this team has had some struggles this year but they are not a bad team by any means.

Last night neither team played well.

After sleeping on it, I think Hubbard may felt the extra pressure of the 1996 team being in the house. And as a result, he was pressing and struggled. Missing 5 FT’s? Just unheard of for him. And he missed several wide open threes. 

Last night was less about the coaches and more about the players just not making shots. Both teams had numerous open looks from three and just failed to make them. 
Way too much is made out of one game. 
Both Beard & Jans are good coaches. The game could have easily ended up with a State win had Hubbard’s layup gone in. That is how close it was. Credit to Ole Miss for scoring one more point last night. Nothing more, nothing less. 

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14 hours ago, Dawg83 said:

Nope. Maybe it’s a conversation if they stink next year too. But a men’s basketball coach at State that’s about to miss the NCAAT for the first time in 4 years isn’t on the hot seat.

well he going to get all the full blame when their season over, doing a very poor job coaching this year

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1 hour ago, Raiders 10 said:

well he going to get all the full blame when their season over, doing a very poor job coaching this year

It’s fair to blame him for the season. He didn’t assemble a very good roster and that falls on him.


His seat still isn’t hot. Not even close.

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1 hour ago, Raiders 10 said:

what going to take to get his seat to get hot?

I mean the guy has led State to three straight NCAA tournaments. This year has been a struggle but it seems people have the patience of a Gnat these days. This microwave society that we live in today is just completely absurd. 
The season is barely half over and some knuckleheads are wanting him on the hot seat. 
Really? 
Let the season play out and then make an assessment on how he is doing. 
If everyone had this attitude in 1988-89-90, Richard Williams would have been fired. And there would have been no 1991 SEC Championship, no 1995 Sweet Sixteen, no 1996 Final Four….

completely ridiculous….

 

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19 hours ago, Raiders 10 said:

what going to take to get his seat to get hot?

If they stink again next year I think it would be a hot seat for him and pressure to produce in 2027-2028.

 

State let Howland have seven years and he made one NCAAT. They’re not gonna run Jans off in four or five years after he made the tourney in each of his first three years.

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3 hours ago, pancho said:

rough couple games looking at Jans here with A&M and then Vandy.   Beard struggled with Auburn last night and goes to visit Rupp saturday.............

Bout time for both teams to break the huddle with “1-2-3 NIT”

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Not sure either team is NIT worthy at this point in time. Embarrassing performance again tonight by State.

Young guys off the bench seem to be playing better. Might as well let them play more going forward. 
Starters have been below average. 

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State definitely now quitting on Chris Jan now and State lost their confident, joyful playing the game of basketball, their body language is really bad after playing that very poorly performance against Vandy and yes it is hot seat time for Chris Jan.

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Don’t let a five game losing streak make you emotional about a coach. Yes things are bad but firing a coach after a short period of bad games is totally stupidity. 
 

With Raiders 10 logic, we would be on our third head coach during this year alone. 
Lose a game or two jump into the coaching portal and sign a coach to a ten day contract. Win a game extend it for five days. 
Lose game, throw him back into the lake like an undersized bass. 

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4 hours ago, Bulldogs4 said:

Don’t let a five game losing streak make you emotional about a coach. Yes things are bad but firing a coach after a short period of bad games is totally stupidity. 
 

With Raiders 10 logic, we would be on our third head coach during this year alone. 
Lose a game or two jump into the coaching portal and sign a coach to a ten day contract. Win a game extend it for five days. 
Lose game, throw him back into the lake like an undersized bass. 

we see how things play out rest of the season if State don't turn it back around

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