MSUBulldog2010 Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Chunky6617 said: Correct. Some receive justice, others receive mercy. In either case, God is glorified. He is glorified when he punishes a sinner in their rebellion against him, and he is glorified in his mercy and forgiveness he gives to others. 14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth." 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills. (Romans 9:14, ESV) You're a hoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky6617 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 10 hours ago, MSUBulldog2010 said: You're a hoot. Has nothing to do with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSUBulldog2010 Posted September 9, 2021 Author Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) On 9/8/2021 at 6:24 AM, Chunky6617 said: Has nothing to do with me. O' but it does. Be weary of any man who states that his spiritual beliefs have nothing to do with him. Edited September 9, 2021 by MSUBulldog2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky6617 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, MSUBulldog2010 said: O' but it does. Be weary of any man who states that his spiritual beliefs have nothing to do with him. For people who read into the Bible to make it say what they want it to, that could be true… like say for instance, trying to find justification in scripture to have sex before marriage. It’s not a spiritual belief. It’s biblical truth. If I could determine what was biblical truth, I would come up with something different than what it is. The Bible is the standard of truth, regardless if I like it or not. It has nothing to do with me. God is God, I am not. Edited September 9, 2021 by Chunky6617 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 true dat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSUBulldog2010 Posted September 10, 2021 Author Share Posted September 10, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 6:48 AM, Chunky6617 said: For people who read into the Bible to make it say what they want it to, that could be true… like say for instance, trying to find justification in scripture to have sex before marriage. It’s not a spiritual belief. It’s biblical truth. If I could determine what was biblical truth, I would come up with something different than what it is. The Bible is the standard of truth, regardless if I like it or not. It has nothing to do with me. God is God, I am not. The Bible can be and is both read and interpreted by billions of people at the exact same time in a billion different ways. You're merely 1 within the masses. Unfortunately there are many more just like you who are equally convinced that they've interpreted the scripture 100% accurately and have thus figured out the human experience and yet merely an opinion your opinion remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky6617 Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, MSUBulldog2010 said: The Bible can be and is both read and interpreted by billions of people at the exact same time in a billion different ways. You're merely 1 within the masses. Unfortunately there are many more just like you who are equally convinced that they've interpreted the scripture 100% accurately and have thus figured out the human experience and yet merely an opinion your opinion remains. That is correct… and that changes nothing. It doesn’t mean the Bible isn’t objective truth. It just means billions of people are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Gonna be lots of folk in hell and that gulf is wide and extremely hot. eternity will last forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSUBulldog2010 Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, pancho said: Gonna be lots of folk in hell and that gulf is wide and extremely hot. eternity will last forever Says every religion around the world even those who allegedly worship a different God than you do. Welcome to the machine. Edited September 11, 2021 by MSUBulldog2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSUBulldog2010 Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 11 hours ago, Chunky6617 said: That is correct… and that changes nothing. It doesn’t mean the Bible isn’t objective truth. It just means billions of people are wrong. Right. Billions of people all thinking billions of others are wrong. You're one among numerous who consider themselves right and billions of others wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 There is only 1 creator. Did these other type of gods create a universe and prepare a place for eternity? Who created Hell and who will inhabit it for eternity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky6617 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, MSUBulldog2010 said: Right. Billions of people all thinking billions of others are wrong. You're one among numerous who consider themselves right and billions of others wrong. Billions of interpretations are wrong. There is objective truth somewhere. The fact that not everybody agrees on what that objective truth us doesn’t mean it’s not true. It just means people are wrong. It’s not people who are right and people who are wrong. The Bible is truth. But many many people and their interpretation of it are wrong. Christianity has proven itself to be true, other religions have not. Ravi Zacarias, as flawed as a person he was morally, gives a wonderful explanation of this in some of his speeches. You should check them out. Edited September 11, 2021 by Chunky6617 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSUBulldog2010 Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chunky6617 said: Billions of interpretations are wrong. There is objective truth somewhere. The fact that not everybody agrees on what that objective truth us doesn’t mean it’s not true. It just means people are wrong. It’s not people who are right and people who are wrong. The Bible is truth. But many many people and their interpretation of it are wrong. Christianity has proven itself to be true, other religions have not. Ravi Zacarias, as flawed as a person he was morally, gives a wonderful explanation of this in some of his speeches. You should check them out. Thank you for merely confirming my commentary when you state that billions of interpretations have it all wrong and that you have it all right. All religious zeolites are the same in that they fervently feel they've interpreted to perfection and that all other interpretations are flawed in comparison to their own. Enough said. Edited September 11, 2021 by MSUBulldog2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky6617 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 2 hours ago, MSUBulldog2010 said: Thank you for merely confirming my commentary when you state that billions of interpretations have it all wrong and that you have it all right. All religious zeolites are the same in that they fervently feel they've interpreted to perfection and that all other interpretations are flawed in comparison to their own. Enough said. You don’t understand. My interpretation could be wrong or could be right. That’s not the issue. There has to be an understanding that objective truth exists, and that the Bible has proven itself to be the source of objective truth. Once that’s established, that’s all the matters. It and it alone is truth, and it will eternally be truth regardless if others interpret it wrongly. 2+2 will always equal 4, even if others think it equals 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 I have added bulldog2010 to my daily prayers. WE all need it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSUBulldog2010 Posted September 12, 2021 Author Share Posted September 12, 2021 9 hours ago, Chunky6617 said: You don’t understand. My interpretation could be wrong or could be right. That’s not the issue. There has to be an understanding that objective truth exists, and that the Bible has proven itself to be the source of objective truth. Once that’s established, that’s all the matters. It and it alone is truth, and it will eternally be truth regardless if others interpret it wrongly. 2+2 will always equal 4, even if others think it equals 5. I have no issue with that statement what so ever so long as you understand that no one interpretation by one individual of a highly interpretive text renders that one interpretation as ultimately right or wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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