Will Oak Grove and Greenville Christian really play each other Sept. 17?

[ogwarriorbandman]

Free streaming 
 

https://oakgrovewarriors.live/watch-live/

Edited September 6, 2021 by ogwarriorbandman

[Wareaglefan1us]

29 minutes ago, ogwarriorbandman said:

Free streaming 
 

https://oakgrovewarriors.live/watch-live/

Thank you I would try to make the game but my wife taking chemo treatments. 

[MSTSatchmo]

2 hours ago, Wareaglefan1us said:

Thank you I would try to make the game but my wife taking chemo treatments. 

[SCVMC1G]

On 9/2/2021 at 11:41 PM, TheAnswer said:

GCS is nothing more than a travel ball all-star team. However, there are a lot of shady stories floating around about what’s actually going on over in the delta.

GCS has 27 players who came over from delta public schools when Covid shut down public school football. Their tuition is being subsidized which is against MAIS rules. They have put themselves in a very bad spot. Of the 31 players, 23 are seniors who came from public schools last year. Either the program will crash when these kids graduate or they will have to keep doing it. Hope they enjoy it while it lasts.

Edited September 8, 2021 by SCVMC1G
Added # of seniors.

[SCVMC1G]

On 9/2/2021 at 9:27 PM, msaisbandkid said:

They aren't playing MRA

NO . . . they're playing a team MUCH better than MRA.

[SCVMC1G]

On 9/3/2021 at 12:50 PM, HammerDown74 said:

What shady stories are there? They way I understand it, when the Delta schools opted out of playing, GCS went and got them. Seems smart to me.

It's not smart when you violate MAIS rules by waiving their tutiton or allowing boosters to pay it just to secure athletes. Or when you have a 31 man roster with 23 seniors because 17 of the kids who worked their way up in the system since Jr. High quit because they got pushed aside for ringers who don't even pay tutiton. It's going to come back and bite GCS in the ass a lot sooner than they think when they can't even field a team or MAIS shuts the program down for rules violations. 

Edited September 8, 2021 by SCVMC1G
Just felt like ranting a little more.

[SCVMC1G]

On 9/3/2021 at 4:17 PM, MSTSatchmo said:

I don’t think anything shady is going on.  I was wondering though why they ended up at GCS as opposed to St Joe or Washington or Pillow.  It could be as simple as GCS reaching out first.  

No it's because GCS is subsidizing their tuitions . . . which is against MAIS rules. 

[Dubaction]

31 minutes ago, SCVMC1G said:

NO . . . they're playing a team MUCH better than MRA.

Finally someone with some sense 

[SCVMC1G]

On 9/3/2021 at 8:46 PM, Arashatora said:

Supposedly they go for 200 a semester tuition

Tuition at GCS is 4500.00, but none of the 27 players GCS recruited are paying a dime.

Edited September 8, 2021 by SCVMC1G

[pancho]

So, the rumors of financial issues at GCS are legit?

[Arashatora]

9 hours ago, SCVMC1G said:

Tuition at GCS is 4500.00, but none of the 27 players GCS recruited are paying a dime.

That's what I figured

[s1nglewing]

9 hours ago, SCVMC1G said:

Tuition at GCS is 4500.00, but none of the 27 players GCS recruited are paying a dime.

Tuition at Greenville Christian for HS students is $5600/year; and how are you privy to the financial situations of 27 or so families and a private business?

 

[s1nglewing]

10 hours ago, SCVMC1G said:

No it's because GCS is subsidizing their tuitions . . . which is against MAIS rules. 

This is simply untrue. Catholic schools subsidize some student tuitions and always have

[Arashatora]

1 hour ago, s1nglewing said:

Tuition at Greenville Christian for HS students is $5600/year; and how are you privy to the financial situations of 27 or so families and a private business?

 

It's a pretty poorly kept secret

Regardless, MAIS will do nothing because MRA, JA, JP and others all openly recruit and pay tuition, offer housing, etc

 

[msaisbandkid]

4 minutes ago, Arashatora said:

It's a pretty poorly kept secret

Regardless, MAIS will do nothing because MRA, JA, JP and others all openly recruit and pay tuition, offer housing, etc

 

The only difference is that MRA, JA, and prep all did it with only a couple people at a time. Roughly 5 at most from what I've seen. GCS is handing out free tuition on a scale hitherto undreamt of. 27 kids make up roughly 30% of their entire high school for reference. This could definitely come back to haunt them.

[msaisbandkid]

1 hour ago, s1nglewing said:

This is simply untrue. Catholic schools subsidize some student tuitions and always have

Yes but that's because the people that have subsidized tuition are Catholics. Its their equivalent of in state tuition.

[s1nglewing]

22 minutes ago, msaisbandkid said:

Yes but that's because the people that have subsidized tuition are Catholics. Its their equivalent of in state tuition.

... also untrue. Non-Catholics are subsidized as well. Some pay no tuition at all, and not necessarily athletes, either.

 

Basically the truth is that there a rumors of this or that and no one has proof - just talking off the tops of their head and repeating the rumors. 

 

Prove me wrong.

[msaisbandkid]

2 minutes ago, s1nglewing said:

... also untrue. Non-Catholics are subsidized as well. Some pay no tuition at all, and not necessarily athletes, either.

 

Basically the truth is that there a rumors of this or that and no one has proof - just talking off the tops of their head and repeating the rumors. 

 

Prove me wrong.

At the very least St Joe Madison does it.

https://www.stjoebruins.com/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=296580&type=d&pREC_ID=1115548

[s1nglewing]

1 hour ago, msaisbandkid said:

At the very least St Joe Madison does it.

https://www.stjoebruins.com/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=296580&type=d&pREC_ID=1115548

 

All Parochial schools offer lower tuition for practicing Catholics; however, some families pay nothing or next-to-nothing, Catholic or not, and it doesn't have anything to do with athleticism.

 

The rumors I refer to is about GCS. No one has any proof - just whispers.

[pancho]

they sho is quite a bit of whispering then.  

[Washed_Up_Athlete]

The MAIS eligibility rule is as follows:

 

G. Financial Consideration

No student may be eligible to participate in inter-school athletics if he has been shown financial consideration by a school, or any of its associated organizations, on the basis of his value to the activity program of the school. A student shown financial consideration of any kind shall be so noted on the eligibility lists that are submitted to the Director of Activities. If the ownership of stock is a requirement for entrance to a school, the gift of such stock to a student who enters into school on someone else's share of stock is considered to be receiving financial aid, and must be so noted.

An acceptable school supported financial aid plan should:
 

1. Be in writing and on file in the school office

 

2. Be approved by the school board

 

3. Be controlled and supervised by the school board

 

4. Contain details of the qualifying criteria for aid

 

5. Include all students in the grade structure of the school

 

6. Demonstrate through documentation, the application and approval process

 

7. Comply with MAIS athletic eligibility reporting, i.e., mark "yes" on online Eligibility Form for students receiving financial aid

 

8. Show evidence of including non-athletes

Signs of Misguided and Faulty Financial Aid:
 

1. A pattern of transfers into an athletic program receiving financial aid, especially at the senior high level

 

2. Shear numbers of athletes receiving financial aid

 

3. Involvement of Boosters' Clubs with financial aid

 

4. Discovery of transfers receiving aid, but not listed on the MAIS Eligibility Report

 

5. Aid to athletes coming from one source, or benefactor, over an extended period of time

 

6. No evidence of inclusion of non-athletes

 

7. Consistent reports from other member schools that a problem exists with the competitions financial aid as it relates to recruiting.

 

_____________      _______________    _________________

 

MAIS member schools can provide reduced tuition or financial aid to students if they comply with the above-quoted rule. GCS likely has a serious issue on its hands with the first two "Signs of Misguided and Faulty Financial Aid" and, from what I understand, may have an issue with the fifth. It remains to be seen whether the MAIS will actually do anything about it.

 

[msaisbandkid]

1 hour ago, s1nglewing said:

 

All Parochial schools offer lower tuition for practicing Catholics; however, some families pay nothing or next-to-nothing, Catholic or not, and it doesn't have anything to do with athleticism.

 

The rumors I refer to is about GCS. No one has any proof - just whispers.

I agree and everything that I have said for clarification is just speculation.

[msaisbandkid]

23 minutes ago, Washed_Up_Athlete said:

The MAIS eligibility rule is as follows:

 

G. Financial Consideration

No student may be eligible to participate in inter-school athletics if he has been shown financial consideration by a school, or any of its associated organizations, on the basis of his value to the activity program of the school. A student shown financial consideration of any kind shall be so noted on the eligibility lists that are submitted to the Director of Activities. If the ownership of stock is a requirement for entrance to a school, the gift of such stock to a student who enters into school on someone else's share of stock is considered to be receiving financial aid, and must be so noted.

An acceptable school supported financial aid plan should:
 

1. Be in writing and on file in the school office

 

2. Be approved by the school board

 

3. Be controlled and supervised by the school board

 

4. Contain details of the qualifying criteria for aid

 

5. Include all students in the grade structure of the school

 

6. Demonstrate through documentation, the application and approval process

 

7. Comply with MAIS athletic eligibility reporting, i.e., mark "yes" on online Eligibility Form for students receiving financial aid

 

8. Show evidence of including non-athletes

Signs of Misguided and Faulty Financial Aid:
 

1. A pattern of transfers into an athletic program receiving financial aid, especially at the senior high level

 

2. Shear numbers of athletes receiving financial aid

 

3. Involvement of Boosters' Clubs with financial aid

 

4. Discovery of transfers receiving aid, but not listed on the MAIS Eligibility Report

 

5. Aid to athletes coming from one source, or benefactor, over an extended period of time

 

6. No evidence of inclusion of non-athletes

 

7. Consistent reports from other member schools that a problem exists with the competitions financial aid as it relates to recruiting.

 

_____________      _______________    _________________

 

MAIS member schools can provide reduced tuition or financial aid to students if they comply with the above-quoted rule. GCS likely has a serious issue on its hands with the first two "Signs of Misguided and Faulty Financial Aid" and, from what I understand, may have an issue with the fifth. It remains to be seen whether the MAIS will actually do anything about it.

 

The main reason why MRA has gotten away with a lot is that many of the people that work for them are affiliated with MRA. The Executive Director of the MAIS is Stone Blanton's dad.

[msaisbandkid]

Just now, msaisbandkid said:

The main reason why MRA has gotten away with a lot is that many of the people that work for them are affiliated with MRA. The Executive Director of the MAIS is Stone Blanton's dad.

Point is I don't know if GCS have the inner circle clout to stay afloat

[Dubaction]

On 9/5/2021 at 2:35 PM, oldschool84 said:

Knowing how Collins Hill coach operates I would have to disagree with you. They won’t be flashy and he won’t score over 42 points against anybody. It’s his philosophy. 

Is Collins Hill the most talented team in Georgia in your opinion?