Rebel Bert Posted October 3 Author Share Posted October 3 36 minutes ago, TigersFan said: Majority of the smaller classifications schools are north of I-20. in 1A only 2 districts are below I-20. In 2 and 3A there are 3 below 1-20 and 1 that is along I-20. North Mississippi has many small towns with small schools. Over they years these schools have been less open to consolidation that has happened more frequently in South Mississippi. Now a a days when districts consolidate is most often state mandated. The Delta has recently seen some consolidation, but in south Mississippi most small schools have consolidated years ago. Only thing that could happen now is if districts decide to close a small school and consolidate students. I am hearing around Jackson the big 4 Private are eyeballing joining the MHSAA. I heard from a good source yesterday some talks have already been had but the MAIS does not want them to leave. They realize if they do it will fold, but I think those four have realize for them to continue to grow and survive they can not prop up the MAIS. I think many will watch and see how the PCS deal works out this year. If that happened in the next few years we could see a large influx of private schools joining the MHSAA. 1A Region 7 currently has MSD and Leake County above I-20. In 2A Region 5 has 2 above I-20 both Lake and Scott Central. Region 6 has 3 above I-20 Pelahatchie, Pisgah, and St Andrew's. In 3A, Region 5 has Kemper County and Noxubee County above I-20. In 4A you have Forest, Morton, and Lanier above I-20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted October 3 Author Share Posted October 3 7 minutes ago, southpaw27 said: Bert what was some region 5 clarkdale,enterprise,quitman,ne jones and morton going to be next year? Morton will stay 4A something like the 10th grade is 160+ students. NE Jones will possibly go up to 5A. Quitman is said to have turned in 346 which is border line 4A/3A. Clarkdale and Enterprise will be borderline 3A/2A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigskinPrognosticator Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 NE Jones will probably be 5A for the next two cycles. This current 9th grade class is the largest in school history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Shackleford Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 15 hours ago, Rebel Bert said: I was just told that Raleigh turned in between 220-225. I was also told they will be most likely the largest 2A. And that they will be 2A. Where the 19 to 25 kids went to since last October I don’t know. It is a gain of at least 9 to 14 from 2022 Reclassification. With that being said, 2023 Comparison School to the right: 2022 Bottom 5 3A. 2023 Mantatchie 231. Collins 226 Wesson 227. Wesson 225 East Webster 227. Scott Cent 223 Enterprise Clarke 223. St Andrew's ??? Perry Central 222. East Union 221 2022 Top 5 2A St Andrew's 221. Hatley 219 Union 220. Wilk Co. 217 Water Valley 218. Clarkdale 215 Charleston 215. Perry Cent 214 Pisgah 214. O'Bannon 213 2022 Bottom 5 2A West Lincoln 162. Leake Co 168 Hamilton 161. Bog Chitto 165 Ingomar 160. W Lincoln 159 Richton 158. Velma Jck 155 Sebastopol 157. Smithville 155 2022 Top 5 1A East Marion 156. T'ville. 155 Enterprise Lincoln 154. Hamilton 153 Velma Jackson 151. Leflore Co 153 Strayhorn 151. Calh City 152 Pine Grove 151. W Tally 152 I think it's safe to say splits will be in the same range. Interesting to see who goes where. I have heard that 224 is the exact number for Raleigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 4 hours ago, Rebel Bert said: I had Byhalia (336) and Shannon (343) both dropping to 3A with Shannon as the largest after 2023 numbers. Amory will be 3A and probably will float. Tornado probably had some looking for home outside Amory. I am told than shannon had many transfers from the tupelo area due to increased out of district fees and that they will have an increase from the past count. however i do not have their final count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky6617 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Rusty Shackleford said: I have heard that 224 is the exact number for Raleigh. That’s probably low 3A if so. I’m thinking around 220 is gonna be the 2A/3A cutoff but that’s simply just going off previous years. I’m curious what Tville’s numbers were Edited October 3 by Chunky6617 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted October 3 Author Share Posted October 3 19 minutes ago, pancho said: I am told than shannon had many transfers from the tupelo area due to increased out of district fees and that they will have an increase from the past count. however i do not have their final count 51 minutes ago, Rusty Shackleford said: I have heard that 224 is the exact number for Raleigh. Curious as to where the 18 students left. And I did not count SPED because of double counting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted October 3 Author Share Posted October 3 4 minutes ago, Chunky6617 said: That’s probably low 3A if so. I’m thinking around 220 is gonna be the 2A/3A cutoff but that’s simply just going off previous years. I’m curious what Tville’s numbers were My source said largest 2A. I am curious if enough students Raleigh (18) and Mize (7) did they transfer to Taylorsville and will Taylorsville be 2A as well. If Pisgah, Scott Central, and Union goes up whose in Region 5 and 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky6617 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 15 minutes ago, Rebel Bert said: My source said largest 2A. I am curious if enough students Raleigh (18) and Mize (7) did they transfer to Taylorsville and will Taylorsville be 2A as well. If Pisgah, Scott Central, and Union goes up whose in Region 5 and 6. There is no way Raleigh lost 18 students. Something is off with last years reported numbers or something. Or Raleigh underreported. I don’t think they lost that many students. I heard Tville gained, but I also heard they have lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted October 3 Author Share Posted October 3 4 minutes ago, Chunky6617 said: There is no way Raleigh lost 18 students. Something is off with last years reported numbers or something. Or Raleigh underreported. I don’t think they lost that many students. I heard Tville gained, but I also heard they have lost. I believe South 3A would be easier to win. So I don't know! 2A is much tougher to win especially the top 2 in Region 5, 6, and 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagsFan77 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Doesn't the State Department still send out people for head counts? Is this used at all? I know they used do it to verify the # because it determines funding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted October 3 Author Share Posted October 3 8 minutes ago, Chunky6617 said: There is no way Raleigh lost 18 students. Something is off with last years reported numbers or something. Or Raleigh underreported. I don’t think they lost that many students. I heard Tville gained, but I also heard they have lost. Huge over reporting to MDE from a year ago maybe. You go from 211 to 242 with a larger 8th grade to 224 is questionable. I want to see the 9th grade numbers. I know the 11th grades were low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastball Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 13 minutes ago, JagsFan77 said: Doesn't the State Department still send out people for head counts? Is this used at all? I know they used do it to verify the # because it determines funding. Not hat I'm aware of. They stopped that 15 years ago I think at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted October 3 Author Share Posted October 3 20 minutes ago, JagsFan77 said: Doesn't the State Department still send out people for head counts? Is this used at all? I know they used do it to verify the # because it determines funding. Everything including every students schedule is emailed to Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky6617 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 3 hours ago, Rebel Bert said: I believe South 3A would be easier to win. So I don't know! 2A is much tougher to win especially the top 2 in Region 5, 6, and 8. 2A is definitely more competitive than 3A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chunky6617 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 3 hours ago, Rebel Bert said: Huge over reporting to MDE from a year ago maybe. You go from 211 to 242 with a larger 8th grade to 224 is questionable. I want to see the 9th grade numbers. I know the 11th grades were low. That’s what I’m suspecting. I am thinking numbers last year was over reported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted October 3 Author Share Posted October 3 51 minutes ago, Chunky6617 said: That’s what I’m suspecting. I am thinking numbers last year was over reported Perhaps so! I went back to confirm Smith County numbers from 2022 and 2024. The only difference i found was Raleigh had 240 and not 242 in 2023. Mize and Taylorsville numbers are correct. So Mize gained 18 and lost 7. Taylorsville gained 7 and 2024 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamHood Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 6 hours ago, Rebel Bert said: Morton will stay 4A something like the 10th grade is 160+ students. NE Jones will possibly go up to 5A. Quitman is said to have turned in 346 which is border line 4A/3A. Clarkdale and Enterprise will be borderline 3A/2A. I sent you a direct measage, not sure if you saw it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted October 3 Author Share Posted October 3 On 9/27/2024 at 11:02 PM, AdamHood said: Will Jim Hill want all there sports to be removed from the ability to play for a championship? No they have been competitive in basketball some years. Problems in Jackson exist with new AD. Jim Hill got the Wingfield students according their updated feeder program unless they moved. So I expect they will be 7A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted October 4 Author Share Posted October 4 7 hours ago, Rusty Shackleford said: I have heard that 224 is the exact number for Raleigh. Have you heard any numbers for: Wesson, Enterprise Clarke, St Andrew's, Scott Central, Collins, Water Valley, East Webster, Union, Charleston, and Perry Central?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccbulldog Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 If Prep, JA, MRA & Hartfield did move to MHSAA, they should be forced to play 7A. And the Jackson public schools should all be allowed to drop down a class for competitive reasons. Then you may not have any wanting to go independent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted October 4 Author Share Posted October 4 45 minutes ago, ccbulldog said: If Prep, JA, MRA & Hartfield did move to MHSAA, they should be forced to play 7A. And the Jackson public schools should all be allowed to drop down a class for competitive reasons. Then you may not have any wanting to go independent. 20 mile radius for recruiting kicks in they may stay where they are at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1nglewing Posted October 4 Share Posted October 4 1 hour ago, ccbulldog said: If Prep, JA, MRA & Hartfield did move to MHSAA, they should be forced to play 7A. And the Jackson public schools should all be allowed to drop down a class for competitive reasons. Then you may not have any wanting to go independent. Keep that kind of talk going. If any of the large MAIS schools go MHSAA there will be an immediate penalty against their competitiveness. That's a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted October 4 Author Share Posted October 4 35 minutes ago, s1nglewing said: Keep that kind of talk going. If any of the large MAIS schools go MHSAA there will be an immediate penalty against their competitiveness. That's a fact. They might get through one round of reclassification before a multiplier is introduced in some form. It might be you play up 2 classes. Then we go to 8 classes if everyone jumps shift. I prefer 6 or 8 schools per region. It cuts out that finding another school or an open date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Bert Posted October 4 Author Share Posted October 4 41 minutes ago, s1nglewing said: Keep that kind of talk going. If any of the large MAIS schools go MHSAA there will be an immediate penalty against their competitiveness. That's a fact. They will have to get use to playing all region games at the end of the season. There won't be Hartfield vs JA in September unless there are 8 team regions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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