Region3 6A

[Ogwarrior53]

If Oak Grove, Brandon, and Warren Central all win out who holds the tie breaker? Would it be Oak Grove due to points? 

Edited October 24, 2022 by Ogwarrior53

[pancho]

a 3 way tie goes first to total points involving all 3 teams.

[pancho]

7 minutes ago, pancho said:

a 3 way tie goes first to total points involving all 3 teams.

brandon beat wc by 18 but 12 is the max and lost to OG by 5 so Brandon has 7

og beat brandon by 5 and lost to wc by 1 so og has 4

wc beat og by 1 and lost tp brandon by 12 so wc has -11

[ogwarriorbandman]

I believe these are the tiebreaker rules…

 

MHSAA Tiebreaker Procedure

1. Head-to-head - Straight W/L records among the tied teams. With three or more teams, if the W/L records are equal - regardless of how much that team won by - then they are still tied in this tiebreaker and proceeds to tiebreaker 2.

2. How the tied teams did against the highest seeded non-tied teams - In other words, how the tied teams did against the highest remaining team not involved in the tiebreaker. This is by straight W/L as well. If the tied teams all won or all lost to the same team, then it goes to the next highest seeded team. If the tied teams all won or all lost there, then the next highest seeded team until all the teams in the region have gone through the same procedure. This tiebreaker is really only used if an odd number of tied teams are tied since an even number will likely have the tie broken on tiebreaker 1. If the tied teams all won and all lost against the same teams, then continue to tiebreaker 3.

3. Point difference in games among the tied teams - This varies by sport, but the overall tiebreaker is the same on all fronts. The maximum amount of points that can be earned in Football and Basketball is 12. In Baseball and both Slow-Pitch and Fast-Pitch Softball, that maximum number is 10 (due to the NFHS 10-run rule that is in play). In Soccer, it is 3. In Volleyball, they use Sets instead of points within each set, and of course since 3 sets is the most anyone can win by, that maximum is 3 as well (but in truth there is no maximum in Volleyball). An example of this: If Team A beats Team B by 7, and Team B beats Team C by 15, and Team C beats Team A by 4, then you have this. Team A won by 7 but lost by 4, that puts them at +3. Team B won by 15, but only gets credit for 12, and lost by 7, that puts Team B at +5. Team C won by 4, but lost by 15 (but only has credit for 12), that puts Team C at -8. The tiebreaker would go Team B +5, Team A +3, Team C -8. Team B would be one, Team A is 2, and Team C is 3. If at the end of this tiebreaker that the tied teams difference is all at 0, then go to tiebreaker 4.

4. Point difference in games among the highest seeded non-tied teams - This is basically tiebreakers 2 and 3 put into one, except you do it team-by-team. Same procedure as tiebreaker 2, and same point maximum in tiebreaker 3. If the teams are still tied after this, go to tiebreaker 5.

5. Points allowed in all region games - Point blank exactly what it says. The only thing here is that there is no maximum points in this tiebreaker.

If it is still a tie after tiebreaker 5, tiebreaker 6 is a coin flip.

It is VERY important to note that after a tie has been broken at any point, the remaining tied teams ONLY go back to tiebreaker 1 IF there is a tie WITHIN the tie. If there is a difference between all teams involved in the tiebreaker that breaks the tie, the teams are seeded in that order

Edited October 24, 2022 by ogwarriorbandman

[ogwarriorbandman]

I believe Rebel Bart had it correct in another post. See below. 
 

I believe if all 3 win out, then points against NW Rankin to break the tie: Current:

1 WC +7

2 Oak Grove 0 they play last game.

3 Brandon 0 they play this week

If Brandon wins by 8 or more then Oak Grove has to do 1 better up to 12. If 12 or more is the number then its: 1 OG, 2 B, 3 WC. The tie is broken at 12 putting WC as 3 seed then head to head goes to OG as 1 seed.

Edited October 24, 2022 by ogwarriorbandman

[Rebel Bert]

3 hours ago, ogwarriorbandman said:

I believe Rebel Bart had it correct in another post. See below. 
 

I believe if all 3 win out, then points against NW Rankin to break the tie: Current:

1 WC +7

2 Oak Grove 0 they play last game.

3 Brandon 0 they play this week

If Brandon wins by 8 or more then Oak Grove has to do 1 better up to 12. If 12 or more is the number then its: 1 OG, 2 B, 3 WC. The tie is broken at 12 putting WC as 3 seed then head to head goes to OG as 1 seed.

If OG and B both tie on points against NW the tie is broken: 8 plus: 1 OG, 2 B, 3 WC, 6 or less 1 WC, 2 OG, 3 B. If all 3 games end 7 points wins it goes to Meridian against those points.

[Rebel Bert]

2 minutes ago, Rebel Bert said:

If OG and B both tie on points against NW the tie is broken: 8 plus: 1 OG, 2 B, 3 WC, 6 or less 1 WC, 2 OG, 3 B. If all 3 games end 7 points wins it goes to Meridian against those points.

Against Meridian right now it's 1 B +12, 2 WC 0, 3 OG -1

[HailTT]

Is this a trend we will continue to see the next year or two or is OG the youngest of the bunch?

[AdamHood]

7 hours ago, Rebel Bert said:

If OG and B both tie on points against NW the tie is broken: 8 plus: 1 OG, 2 B, 3 WC, 6 or less 1 WC, 2 OG, 3 B. If all 3 games end 7 points wins it goes to Meridian against those points.

Points don't matter if the team is not in the tie.  Points only come into play for the games that the tied teams played in.  So the only thing NW can be used for is W/L

[David]

Why is everyone leaving NW Rankin out of the calculations? Granted, they are probably the weakest of the deadlocked teams, but should they win out or win one of the two, everything is up for grabs. I love the underdog!

[RMcCormick66]

I'm calling for Petal to upset WC this week and to throw a wrench into things. 

[Vott]

1 hour ago, RMcCormick66 said:

I'm calling for Petal to upset WC this week and to throw a wrench into things. 

LOLOLOLOLOL. 

[pancho]

so there is a chance? less than 1%

[ScaryTerry]

WC will lose at least one of their remaining games. I wasn't very impressed by them.

[Montana6]

1 hour ago, ScaryTerry said:

WC will lose at least one of their remaining games. I wasn't very impressed by them.

WC will probably lose to Meridian if anything and def not as good as their record shows still don't know how they beat OG

[Ogwarrior53]

2 hours ago, Montana6 said:

WC will probably lose to Meridian if anything and def not as good as their record shows still don't know how they beat OG

OG had 6 turnovers and 2 of those were defensive TD’s

[Dubaction]

8 hours ago, HailTT said:

Is this a trend we will continue to see the next year or two or is OG the youngest of the bunch?

OG is junior and sophomore heavy. I believe they have 5 maybe 6 senior starters. 

[ogwarriorbandman]

9 hours ago, HailTT said:

Is this a trend we will continue to see the next year or two or is OG the youngest of the bunch?

Oak Grove is the youngest of the 3 bunch. But Brandon just like other 6A schools reloads every year. So it will continue to happen from my perspective. Same for the schools in other regions moving to 7A. 

[maroontide06]

4 hours ago, Dubaction said:

OG is junior and sophomore heavy. I believe they have 5 maybe 6 senior starters. 

Hmmm….interesting.  Sounds like Maroon Tide future opponent material.

[Dubaction]

3 minutes ago, maroontide06 said:

Hmmm….interesting.  Sounds like Maroon Tide future opponent material.

Line it up. 

[maroontide06]

2 minutes ago, Dubaction said:

Line it up. 

Maybe it will happen Dub, I would love for it to.  But I’m the low man on the totem pole.  It would make for some non-cupcake football that’s for sure.